On today's episode of Unbinge, we are talking about predator killer of killers. And, guys, this movie was absolutely awesome, but there's so much more to it than that. We're actually gonna be talking about, is this the most important movie in the entire predator franchise? And we're going to explain that ending for you on an auto episode of Unvenged. Starting.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Folks, if you got this far and didn't realize that we're gonna be talking about practically every single spoiler from every predator movie and probably some alien movies too, then you kinda messed up. Go back, watch them all, then come back and watch this, but we are gonna spoil the crap out of all of them in a good way.
Alfredo Brown:Guys, I'm gonna start this off with the question that we ask at the beginning here. Is this the most important predator movie in the entire franchise? All of us did a group watch this past week slash weekend where we watched every single movie that's all fresh in our minds. I wanna hear everyone's take on this because I think that this movie does something that none of the other ones have really done. Jag, I know you're gonna come out hot, man.
Alfredo Brown:What were your feelings on this movie?
Jagger May:This hands down, like you said, it's the most important because as a hater, this made me a fan. It gave me what I needed to connect all of these movies, all of these franchises together. Now I will give Prey credit. I loved Prey, but not unlike all the other predator movies that we've seen. It was a great standalone movie where I didn't feel a a need to go rewatch everything else but maybe the Danny Glover one that I'm the only one who fucking likes out of this group.
Jagger May:But the this tied everything together, and it made, like, our little group watch through the group chat worth it because it didn't just say, like, you're one ugly motherfucker or give us this crowd pleasing moments, but it built a rich story that a lot of these other wannabe MCU franchises aren't able to pull off. And Daniel Trachtenberg is able to do this without blatantly trying to make a predator MCU rip off.
Alfredo Brown:Cough, I know this is like this is your cocaine. You would mash it up, line it up on the table, and snort this to wake yourself up every morning. Anything predator, alien, eighties, robocop, terminator, Fuck it. Anything from the eighties. This is your jam.
Alfredo Brown:How did this feel how did this feel for you? Did it uphold the standard that you have for predator and everything in this lore?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Honestly, I was a little apprehensive going into it. I was like, oh, an anthology? I don't know. I don't know if it's gonna if it's gonna work, if it's gonna be a little little disjointed.
Matt Kopfhamer:And I was pleasantly surprised that not only was the animation dynamic and beautiful, but the action and choreography was was fucking fantastic. But the story worked well. It it fit in with and expanded the lore of the predator franchise in a in a very pleasing way. And I don't know if I'm ready to say it's the most important film in the franchise just because I feel like I expanded upon some concepts that we were already introduced to in films like predators and even the original AVP where it's like we get these hunting groups that go out. They introduce the fact that they hunt species across the galaxy, not just humans, but also xenomorphs, and they potentially breed xenomorphs to hunt.
Matt Kopfhamer:And I I felt like this is this movie, Killer of Killers, is a is a nice bridge piece to what we're gonna see in Badlands, and it bridges what we already saw in previous iterations of the predator franchise. Like I mentioned, predators being that hunting reserve, the introduction of, super predators and bad bloods and all these other, you know, subspecies of the Ucha. I love this movie.
Alfredo Brown:Say it
Jagger May:one more time for
Alfredo Brown:the people at home?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Ucha.
Alfredo Brown:There we go, baby.
Matt Kopfhamer:I'm super excited for I'm super excited for Badlands because of where we were left off in killer killers.
Alfredo Brown:Now, Sam, you were one of the people that when we said we're gonna be watching a predator movie, you were like, fuck yes. I love predator. Let's do this. That's why this is the time, but we have a five person podcast today. We never have this.
Alfredo Brown:You got to go through all these movies. Now there's one that that you were missing, and we're gonna blame Koff because of that with Prey. But Yeah. We'll Actually, I'm I'm more curious now because you're the only person that hasn't seen Prey from this group. So how did this movie hit for you?
Alfredo Brown:Because this is now really the Dan Trachtenberg predator movie that you've seen, and it doesn't have that connective tissue for you. And I know that's something that everyone else so far has talked about being so important.
Samantha Holt:Definitely. No. I what I love the most, I think, about these types of movies, I'm gonna say alien and predator and all of them together. From an artistic standpoint, I'm obsessed with good creature design and world building and the creation of these things that are completely new. And so for me oh, yes.
Samantha Holt:The mandibles, I love it.
Alfredo Brown:Cough do that less.
Samantha Holt:Yeah. It's just I I love it. But anyways That's
Alfredo Brown:how cough is at the clubs. He's just looking across the room. Just throwing Trying to
Samantha Holt:pick up girls who just
Matt Kopfhamer:60% of the time, it works every time.
Alfredo Brown:Can't believe 60 gotta be way lower.
Samantha Holt:It's gotta
Alfredo Brown:be way lower.
Samantha Holt:No. But just going into what
Matt Kopfhamer:I'm over six feet.
Samantha Holt:Animation did six feet. Going into what the animation does in terms of building the world and building the creatures and building the weaponry, I was really excited about seeing all these different ways that you not only saw we've seen the predator evolve to fight different types of warriors, but we also now see how their technology evolves to fight all of these different warriors and tying that all together too. I mean, just the little, like, chain hook that's very mortal combat in terms of how that comes out from Hell yeah. The freaking spaceship as well as well as off of his body. I love that we evolved past just like the razor Frisbee that he has.
Samantha Holt:Now we've got so many more things that he can do. It's way more fascinating to me how that's gonna all tie in as well going forward into Badlands and future things. And I hope we get more animations because you can do so much more visually with it to explain the world.
Jagger May:Good Mortal Kombat call out. Thank you.
Alfredo Brown:You're welcome. Honestly, and and I was gonna say this for later, but I want Dan Trachtenberg to get so many of these franchises that have been mismanaged for years. Give him Mortal Kombat. Give him, Assassin's Creed. Like, give him there's there's put him in something in DC that that could be really cool.
Alfredo Brown:Like, I don't care, man. Like, just give him something that has been mismanaged because he's showing a a pension for being able to do this. Vig, I I wanna hear from you because even when we were just thinking of a title for this episode and what's the main topic you like, you always do this good yin to my yang thing where you're like, well, actually. And I know you've got something good brewing in there, so I wanna hear your thoughts on this movie after watching it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I don't know that I do. So I'll be honest. I was gonna say a lot of what Sam said. I think what I really love about these movies is lore, world building, and really the artistic and creative design. And I think animation gives you a really unique avenue to do things you just can't get away with on, like, live action.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, certain live action things are just not gonna look as good, but they've actually done a pretty good job. The predator series, aliens, they, like, have done great practical effects. But this movie, man, it was fantastic. I don't think it's the most important. I think Badlands is gonna be the most important predator movie because Doesn't exist yet, man.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Watch I know. Know. It's like my game. Going to be because people just don't watch animation like that as much. People are still there are still people who gonna be like, oh, that's a cartoon.
Jagger May:They call it cartoons.
Alfredo Brown:It's like animals.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:You know? And it's it's not gonna get traction. Even though this is critically beloved, fans really enjoy it. I just think it's not gonna get traction. But what I really love is that the predator movies are really about the predators.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yes. Our humans somehow always win. If you if you think about their lore, man, these creatures suck. They just keep dying to humans all the time. You're supposed
Jagger May:to No. No. No. No.
Matt Kopfhamer:You look at the show and it's like 50 to one.
Alfredo Brown:So, Matt, put your boner away. Let him
Jagger May:finish up. Yes. Of course. He's out of line, but he's like an ant killing me.
Alfredo Brown:It's like
Vignesh Doraiswamy:an ant killing me. Doesn't matter if I kill a thousand ants. If an ant kills me.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yes, it does.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But so that aside, I think we really wanna know more about predators.
Alfredo Brown:Just so
Vignesh Doraiswamy:understand. And if you've if you've read, like, the Marvel predator comics or read some of these other stories, you know that there's things have been alluded to about there being various factions. Like, there are there are honorable predators, the dishonorable predators, and these guys may be a little bit more dishonorable. They're, like, not fighting down to they're not fighting down to the level of these guys. They're, like, cloaking themselves and doing all that sort of and I wanna learn more about the predators.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:And I think that's what Badlands is gonna do. Right? Creature that we're seeing is either a castaway predator or a predator that has to prove themselves to finally get their approval by maybe killing whatever the case might be. And I think that will hook people the way Prey did. And I really think that Dan Trachtenberg, like you guys said, he's like the felony James Gunn of predator right now, and he's really doing a great job revitalizing this franchise and getting a new audience to enjoy this.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I was never truly a hater, but I thought these were poorly mismanaged movies when I saw them. I was like, this is so good. Why couldn't you have just taken it to the next level? And I think he does that with this. I really think people need to watch this, even if you don't think you love animation because this is a masterfully made movie.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:It's not perfect. It has its flaws. We can talk about them later if you want, but I really enjoyed it. I had a great time. I wanna watch it again.
Jagger May:To piggyback on what Vig and Sam have said on here, I'll start with the animation part. This is always why I'm a big proponent on animation is you don't have the, wow. They're in a blue room fighting CGI issue that you have sometimes. Everything feels like an inclusive world, and you're not taking out of it by the lack of realism because nothing is, quote, unquote, realistic at that
Alfredo Brown:point. At you, the predator.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. Like, Zach. You know you know the movie I'm fucking talking about with that Kaiju motherfucker stumbling around. You know?
Jagger May:Like, this is, to me, the ideal medium for most things like this, but I'm also, like, way on the other end on that. And then to what, like, you and Sam have kinda said about the lore and getting to learn about the predator, I think what's really interesting about predator is you have a central focus character that isn't the primary focus in the writing here, where you are interested in the villain, quote, unquote, or whatever the title character is quite literally, but you never hear their point of view. You never even get fucking dialogue. You just get clicks and shit in a language on a screen that you can't even read anymore, and you're just as invested in learning about the killer or the villain as your your protagonist is. And it it is so unique because you gotta think about all the other villains that we have that are interesting.
Jagger May:Like like Voldemort. Okay. We got this dude who hates people who aren't like him. It's very straightforward. You know, there there are things that you can learn more about it.
Jagger May:Yeah. But here, you know nothing. You're like, well, why does homie over here have a fucking fist hand? Why does homie over here like to like, I wanna I wanna learn how do they choose their weapons. And I know I used poor phrasing, so I'll just step off the podium.
Jagger May:I almost I almost spit
Alfredo Brown:out my drink.
Matt Kopfhamer:But it I think that's also a strength of the franchise.
Jagger May:Nope. I
Matt Kopfhamer:I think that's a a strength of this franchise, though, is the fact that each iteration feels unique, feels a little bit different, but still feels like the original. Like, you you have that connective tissue to the original jungle hunter in predator one, but you have all these different iterations where it's like, even go to prey where now you have I think they call him the feral predator where he has, like, the skull mask, and it's slightly slightly more primitive weaponry. And so you can see as the years go on, as they hunt, as they get more experience, their weapons, their techniques, their tactics all start to change and get more evolved. And it really ties into what this movie's focus on was is that they are obsessed with becoming the best of the best of the best when it comes to hunting and killing. And they want to prove themselves through combat.
Matt Kopfhamer:And I'm wearing my Battlebee shirt right now because that shit just that shit hits for me. I love that type of, like, honorable, like, samurai code warrior, like, concept. And this is that to,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:like Well, there was nothing degree. Koff, there was nothing honorable about these predators, and it's kinda why I enjoyed it. Right? Like, these guys were not doing the honorable predator thing. Right?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:There are predators who wanna be the best of the best, they they use weapons appropriate to the level of who they are fighting with. These guys weren't, and that's actually kinda why I These
Alfredo Brown:guys were dicks.
Jagger May:Because I
Vignesh Doraiswamy:was like, I was like,
Alfredo Brown:guys, why
Jagger May:are you
Vignesh Doraiswamy:why are you gonna cloak it in a 16 year old boy who just, like, speared Zoran? Like, come on, man. Like, at least uncloak yourself and fight him. You know you could destroy them all, but that's what I enjoy. And, you know, I I I know I just sound like a broken record, but really great lore and story and world building, and I love, like, what Jack said.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:We wanna know more about the predator. And this whole thing, as fantastic as it was, didn't really tell me that much more. So it just gets me it whets my appetite. I'm more excited for more predator. It tells us a little bit.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I wouldn't say it
Jagger May:tells us a lot. Tells lot more.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I disagree. It tells us a lot more, but we haven't gotten to the ending explained part yet, so I'm calming down for
Jagger May:a
Matt Kopfhamer:One piece one piece of information I had I wish they had kinda pointed out was the planet that they take all of the the humans to. They drop them in that gladiatorial arena. Is that is that the prime planet, or is that just another, like, game reserve like we saw in predators?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:There. We don't know. We'll get their dog.
Alfredo Brown:We're gonna we're gonna get there. And so, like okay. So this is why I pose the question that is this the most important movie in this franchise? And the reason I say this is because everything you guys have mentioned so far has been world building. In order to world build and to have a world that can be more interesting and get bigger, you've gotta be able to expand the story and be able to expand the depth of this character.
Alfredo Brown:The predator hasn't really had a whole lot of depth, man. Watching that movie, it's just explosions and motherfuckers and guns and a lot of sweaty by itself. And then and, like and it doesn't really get better. You get all the way to 02/2010. They're like, you know what the real new weapon is?
Alfredo Brown:Asperger's. And it's like, damn, predator. We we kinda which direction are we going? Right? What this did was this not only expands the predator universe to say, wow, we actually have a full fledged franchise where we could potentially have a trilogy here under one director, but we now can go into the world of animation where we can do things that we've never done in a movie.
Alfredo Brown:So you have the opportunity to and this is we already did the spoilers, but you have the opportunity to bring back Naru from Prey. You can bring back Dutch from the predator. You can bring back all these different characters and do something that would never work in live action. And to be on different planets, to explore different stories, to have different time jumps, to do all the things they've done, to me, makes this the most important movie because you can actually have a real legitimate predator cinematic universe. And something else that was talked about by Dan Trachtenberg.
Alfredo Brown:It's not just that you have the predator here and all these people, but we've seen the xenomorphism there from Alien. Also, the scavenger from Independence Day has been in the trailer for predator Badlands. All of these things are owned by twentieth Century Fox. Independence Day? Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:He has confirmed these are all owned by the same company. So we could have a really massive, just extraterrestrial world of a bunch of big motherfuckers fighting each other with humans caught in the middle. And that's why I think, like, this could lead to something really cool. And I hope it doesn't get too overblown, right, where it kinda turns into predator endgame. I don't want that.
Alfredo Brown:But I just think that we can open up a world here that hasn't really been explored yet. That's why I look at this as potentially the most important film in this whole predator franchise.
Jagger May:You nailed it, Alf. Like like, a 100%. Like like like, that's like a bar right there on everything because it's I imagine, like, someone like especially when you think about all these studios and what they're trying to achieve and how everyone is basically trying to copy Disney almost to a fault. You look at Warner Brothers, and they had their monster verse. They have to they have to be having the Arthur fist shaking right now looking over at what they're they're cooking over at 20 because they because Damn.
Alfredo Brown:We tried to do the mummy with Tom Cruise. Shit didn't work.
Jagger May:It's like Tom Cruise is single handedly saving cinema, and we couldn't get this off the ground. But Dan Tracked a bird is just like, hey. You wanna fill some shit out and bum fuck Oklahoma? It's like, then we're gonna film a cartoon in space later. You know?
Jagger May:Like, it just like, he just gets it. You know? Exactly. It and it's just to me, this is good arturship. And I and I know Artur doesn't count, so he doesn't act in it.
Jagger May:But when someone really has, like, the Kevin Feige strings of a franchise and does a good job at making it artful, we have to applaud that because it's like, Sam, what you talk about, like, the monster design and and what this studio has, there's a lot of cool shit, but a lot of people have just been making garbage. Like, I know we're gonna keep going strays like the predator, you know, where you got Boyd Holbrook. It's like, let's give Boyd Holbrook a predator suit. It's like, what? It
Alfredo Brown:it was the end of iron man one with
Jagger May:I gotta give you one of those.
Alfredo Brown:Next time, baby.
Samantha Holt:Like, how did you
Alfredo Brown:get this?
Matt Kopfhamer:But that's the thing. I I wanna I would argue that the predator franchise has been maybe not amazing all the time because as we saw, they stumble a couple times. But I I feel like it's been consistent in what it's delivered. And so you you yeah. So you kinda know what you're getting when it we go into a predator movie.
Matt Kopfhamer:So, you know, conceptually, where you're gonna get. But then I think the last few movies, because it's been a singular vision by Dan Trachtenberg, has really been able to take that concept, expand it in a fun way, and really given us this, like, hunger really for the next movie. Like, I cannot wait for bad Badlands to come out to see how he expands this lore again and see what new concept he's gonna introduce that we're gonna be like, shit. When's the next movie coming? Because I I feel like this has revitalized the franchise in a way that we haven't seen since probably the AVP.
Matt Kopfhamer:Like, I remember when I was when that movie was announced, like, the hype was real. I was like, they're gonna introduce the merging of two of my favorite sci fi franchises. And, you know, the one was fun, and the one was dog shit. But, hopefully, this will lead to a new generation of those of those movies or of those stories.
Alfredo Brown:Koff, you're gonna be so hyped for alien versus predator versus terminator versus
Jagger May:scorpion. He's just the Vince McMahon meme. Like, more eighties act like, Jacques can we get Jacques Claude versus
Alfredo Brown:Blade Runner?
Jagger May:Sport in here coming in just like him.
Matt Kopfhamer:Oh, the hype meter
Jagger May:is real. Okay.
Alfredo Brown:So one of the things that we wanna talk about in this episode is explaining this ending and where it could lead everything to. Vic. I want to throw this to you because this ending, I think it's not only was it a great ending to this localized story, we can call it that. But I think, like I mentioned, it opens up the door to so many future things. What do you want to see going forward, and how did how did you perceive that ending?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Alright. So I think the big obvious spoilery thing is that we see Naru from prey. She's also being, in her cryo sleep or cryo preservation. We don't really know when this this thing, by way, it's in the timeline.
Alfredo Brown:It's cryo. Thank you for saying it's cryo because I watched this with my wife, Gabby, and she's like, no, they're all dead. Those are trophies. I'm like, dog, you're not keeping trophies frozen
Vignesh Doraiswamy:like that. Yeah, that's 100%. Yeah. They're just bringing them back.
Matt Kopfhamer:Homey weird stuff. Explains the time
Alfredo Brown:jump between And that's that's also what I explained too. So anyone who wasn't sure, they're frozen.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. It's frozen. Because also It look like this. If you look
Alfredo Brown:closely, there's Austin Powers in the back as well. It's just full cryo.
Samantha Holt:Torres also
Jagger May:says he
Matt Kopfhamer:wakes up. It also explains the time
Samantha Holt:Right. Asleep.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. It explains the time jump inside the movie itself because the Norse woman and the samurai in the nineteen forties pilot, that's hundreds of years in between them. So Yeah.
Matt Kopfhamer:How are they all at the same time if unless they were cryogenically frozen and then dethawed when it's, like, time to fight?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Cannot believe that we just had to have a one minute to two minute conversation about the fact that they were cryogenically frozen. Sorry, Gabby.
Alfredo Brown:Sure. Sure. Yeah. You called my
Vignesh Doraiswamy:wife to slap on her. I love Gabby. She's way smarter than you.
Alfredo Brown:You know?
Samantha Holt:I didn't say that. Not
Alfredo Brown:this time.
Jagger May:Sam's like like, next
Alfredo Brown:time, baby. Same.
Jagger May:Same's a girl's girl. She's like
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Alright. So the reason I think sort of opens everything up, and we've talked about it before is, at least this clan of predators and I think for the time we're seeing true predator hierarchy with the the one that the Norse calls the Grendel king. Right? We haven't really noticed that he he, it, she, whatever. I don't do that.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Are they gendered creatures? They are actually.
Matt Kopfhamer:They are. Yeah. Typically, the doctors are male.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. So we finally see, like, some hierarchy of warlord of some kind.
Alfredo Brown:Haven't seen the lady predator.
Matt Kopfhamer:They haven't shown it on screen yet, but they're in the comics.
Alfredo Brown:Copy. Just
Samantha Holt:being cool. You're just
Alfredo Brown:like, excellent. This.
Jagger May:And this. This. Like, you're
Alfredo Brown:very stoked. But why do they really so excited. You should
Vignesh Doraiswamy:check out the Marvel comics if you really like some of the the lore and world building. It adds a little bit more. They're not like the world's best, but they, like, add a lot of story, and it's really nice. But basically, we see that this clan or group or tribe of predators who don't fight very honorably in my opinion, keep their their killers as trophies, and maybe they create these killer of killer or tournament of champion kinda tournaments. They have some honor maybe because they give them back their, like, weapons that they're used to or they think that they're used to at any rate.
Matt Kopfhamer:Even from the century.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I know. Right? So they kinda do that. Shout out to this gun that just this flintlock pistol that makes it into, like, three different movies really, really randomly.
Samantha Holt:Can can you just
Alfredo Brown:us the detail of what three movies those were for for anyone who, like, didn't quite notice it?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So if you watched prey, the that's where we actually get the origin story of this Ralph Vandellini pistol, this Italian guy's pistol flintlock pistol that Naru gets to keep as sort of her trophy. But that's the same pistol that shows up in predator two for Danny Glover that he's given to him as a respect, out of respect instead of killing him. It's the same pistol that shows up now in this movie to our boy, Torres. He's like, I don't know how to use this. He's like gunpowder, bullet, whatever.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So it's kinda nice that he actually gets his real weapon when he gets to fly something or drive something. But I just think it's nice because it can sort of bring all these characters back in a way that only animation can. Alfredo, think you mentioned it earlier. So it keeps that option open, but it also teaches us more about predator culture. I think that's what I really enjoy about this, because you get a shot that actually shows hundreds to possibly thousands of cryogenically frozen creatures, not just humans.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Right? We see NARA, but we also see what might be a xenomorph. I pause that that frame a lot, and I could not get a clear view as to what I was looking at, but could it be a xenomorph? We know they breed xenomorphs to use as like hunting trials and fighting. So I just think it's really nice because that ending gives us so much potential for what can be done both in, you know, the real real live action sort of stuff, but also more animation.
Alfredo Brown:Sam Sam put up the finger, so I wanna I wanna let her cook here for a minute.
Samantha Holt:I just get so excited about the alien part of it, and thank you for bearing with me. But something about them collecting these trophies or warriors under, cryo freezing them and doing that sample collection. We're also getting a little sneak peek of that sample collection for Alien Earth trailer that just came out. And the idea of more xenomorphs, we get that little standalone that you have in Killer of Killers. So we know that there's more xenomorphs that the predators look at as opponents to fight and are also avid warriors.
Samantha Holt:Obviously, they're keeping those that are able to kill other predators. We're also sealing seeing this sample collection happening in alien earth. And so there's something about this culture of these alien creatures of all of the xenomorphs that goes about wanting to learn other worlds, other clans, other cultures for their purposes of survival. I think at the end of the day, all of this is surviving and being the fittest and the one that is the last one standing for all of these things. So I'm really excited to see that tie in for more alien stuff in the future.
Samantha Holt:Just give me more monsters. Give me more aliens.
Matt Kopfhamer:My biggest creditors visited Earth when Darwin was around, and they heard him, like, lecture. They're like, fuck. This guy gets it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Survival is the next movie.
Samantha Holt:Let's come back in a hundred years, and that's why they keep coming back in, like, different inner intervals.
Jagger May:They're like, homies cooking. I think we should let them go, and then, like, you know, we'll we'll we'll take
Alfredo Brown:This planet's not ready yet.
Jagger May:Yeah. Like, they're not quite right. You know? My biggest thing is the implications Predators
Matt Kopfhamer:killed all the dodos. That's what it
Jagger May:is. That oh, yeah. Nature's dude, birds are fucking horrible. Just go take out the spoonbill next. Those fucking dinosaurs scare you.
Alfredo Brown:Oh, the predators the predators killed the dinosaurs. It made them extinct. Oh, shit. Well, they because those were the only worthy warriors on the planet at the time.
Matt Kopfhamer:Hell yeah.
Jagger May:There's a
Samantha Holt:T Rex.
Alfredo Brown:Boom. Predator Jurassic Park crossover. I said it.
Matt Kopfhamer:Let's do it.
Jagger May:Universes are open. Don't want that. But real talk. Let's talk about the implications of
Alfredo Brown:The implications. We gotta make that a segment by the way. Time we do it, implications.
Jagger May:Yeah. Because of the implication. I wonder and now I'm I realized Trachtenberg has done a really good job at tying everything together. Alien has what's crazy is predator has done a good job even throughout its iterations over the years. Alien has not given a fuck.
Jagger May:There is like, what is the lore of alien? Who really knows? It changes. And I'm wondering if this is a good segue to smooth everything over because, like, if if the Yautja are having breeding these, did they create them, or did David create the alien? And then the Yautja found him like, wow.
Jagger May:This shit is dope. Imagine if you were feeling loose. Yeah. It's like, this shit's slaps, dog. Let's make a whole planet.
Jagger May:We'll train up. We'll get swell as fuck, and then we'll go do this in other planets. Like like, what what is the thought process there?
Alfredo Brown:You know, the idea of the pros talking like that to each other. It's fucking slaps.
Matt Kopfhamer:So I
Vignesh Doraiswamy:think we gotta solidify it though. Jagger brings up a good point. I think part of the problem with all this is that there was a like, Alien versus Predator and these movies, like, they kinda made a good timeline. But then with covenant For me, it's really got a retcon to all of this. Right?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, it's sort of changed. So I actually don't know what the lore is anymore. I don't want somebody
Jagger May:to I like Prometheus and covenant. Oh, I like the yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I like Prometheus and covenant. I like the engineers, and I love that storyline. I love learning more about that, but we actually don't know what the lore is. I'm really hoping that alien earth and Badlands and everything that's moving forward gives us a more unified story. Because I think we know pieces of it, but certain movies are now just like, they're non canon very clearly, because they obviously contradict each other.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So I really am excited to see what they do with that though, because like like Sam said, you know, they're giving us hints that these future things are gonna be connected, that Independence Day monsters and aliens are gonna be connected. And I think this is a pretty good opportunity for them to not mess things up. And given how so many franchises have messed things up recently, I'm really hoping, and I think Schrodinger's record speaks for itself, that they're gonna be thoughtful and take care in how they write these stories and how they present this to us to watch.
Matt Kopfhamer:But I think the to a point to bounce off of that, Fig, is is I think studios need to realize having a singular vision or having a very small team that does the writing, that does the the planning and storyboarding is what's important. Because when you have too many cooks in the kitchen, all of a sudden, they're like, what if we do this? And what if we do this? And then it becomes a hodgepodge of different storylines and concepts that get cobbled together and just is nonsense. So I think we really need
Vignesh Doraiswamy:to have
Matt Kopfhamer:studios focus, unfortunately. But studios really need to realize, like, they need to have a focused story. And and a lot of times what it comes down to is, like, they don't care. They just want money in in the bottom line. And so they just crap it out, and we'll we'll figure out the finances in the background.
Matt Kopfhamer:But if they really care care about doing the fan service right or doing what's right for the fans, it's creating that singular vision, creating a tight story, and then building off of that and not worrying about what looks cool or what's gonna be cool.
Jagger May:Yeah. And the TV, I think, is the best example of doing the bad version of what you're saying. Because you can tell, especially if you study writing, you're like, wow. I could tell three people wrote the story because we have an a plot line and then a b plot line and a c plot line, and all three of these writers wanna tell different stories. It's just like, homie over here is in love and going through here, then here's an actual war.
Jagger May:And I think that's kinda what's happened with alien is that every like like, Ridley Scott wanted to make a horror movie, then someone else is just like, well, let's tell a story
Matt Kopfhamer:James Cameron.
Jagger May:About about well, yeah, about Sigourney Weaver. Let's make her like, let's make her a female Arnold. So then we got that and then circle back two years later to Prometheus, then someone's like, hey. Why don't we make a lore that makes sense? And then a lot of the nerds got like, well, fuck that.
Jagger May:I don't like that. It wasn't scary enough, and I miss Ridley Scott. And then and I was like, so now we're here.
Alfredo Brown:I'm loving Jags and Louise
Jagger May:from Ant Man version of the history of these movies. Really really, Scott was the one that
Matt Kopfhamer:did Prometheus and Covenant because he wanted to go back and tell his origins. Yeah. And and people were upset with it because it didn't feel like the original. So
Jagger May:Mhmm.
Samantha Holt:It's not the same as
Matt Kopfhamer:what But also, I was upset by the end when Charlize Theron's like, this thing's gonna follow me. I'm gonna run-in a straight line instead of out of the way.
Jagger May:She died like a bitch. Yeah. I saw that too. I was just like, you you got a pot hard in the Furiosa would've never let that happen. Furiosa.
Jagger May:Yeah. Furiosa would death.
Alfredo Brown:Jeez. Okay. So we've we've talked about, like, the the the implications of this film in the the greater cinematic universe for it. We've talked about the ending here. I want to actually just talk about this movie and what we saw in it because we saw some of the coolest stuff we have ever seen
Matt Kopfhamer:in the greater universe.
Alfredo Brown:Well, then that's that's what I'm going to ask everybody right here. Sam, I want to start this with you. What story for you worked the best? And it could be like, oh, this predator was the coolest or this character to me, like, it resonated most. The fight scene was the best.
Alfredo Brown:Which which story out of these three? We had the shield with Ursa. We had the sword in Japan, and then we had the bullet with our boy, Torres. Right? Torres.
Alfredo Brown:World War two? Yeah. By the way, voiced by Spanish from old school. So yeah. Mhmm.
Alfredo Brown:Fun. Oh. So who Sam, what was your favorite one out of these three?
Samantha Holt:I think I'm gonna go with the shield for a couple reasons. We are starting with our most primitive human in terms of fighting style and lore. Again, a tribal type of mindset kind of similar to what we're seeing some of the predator as well. But the predator that she fights is the big brawny predator. And, yes, he's got that
Vignesh Doraiswamy:An army.
Samantha Holt:He's got his own version of he's I'm not gonna call it that. He's got his own version of a shield. I'm gonna call
Matt Kopfhamer:it a version of a shield
Samantha Holt:because no. But if you guys look, he's amputated. So he had to have that added on. Oh. There's so many other predator so many other predators get their arms chopped off, but they don't die.
Samantha Holt:But there's gotta be ways for them to continue to evolve as a fighter, as a warrior. So they take that, you know, what you can imagine an injury or something to debilitate them, and they turn it into something else with their technology. And she uses that technology at the end against him. So even the things that he did to make himself stronger end up being, you know, the Achilles heel for him at the end because of the way that she does, in my opinion, one of coolest kills, I think, of the film where she harpoons against himself with with his shield. So I feel like there's a lot to the character of her and her fighting style, the vengeance story that I thought really enjoyed too.
Samantha Holt:And obviously all going for her son. And then her father, then her son to the fighting style to watching how you saw this specific predator. You didn't see him evolve the same way you watch the one watching the samurai fight learning their fighting style. But this one you saw, he's already been through the shit, and he thought he was able to fight to a certain level based on what he's evolved to. And he still wasn't able to win, which I think makes that a really interesting fight and kill.
Alfredo Brown:So I'm I'm gonna be in full agreement with you, Sam, on this one. I really enjoyed the one because that, to me, felt like a full story that they came out hottest with this with this fight, this character's sequence. And that was the character and the sequence that
Samantha Holt:got me
Alfredo Brown:hooked immediately. And honestly, I would have been fine if this was a twenty minute, like, short animated thing that we got like a Saturday morning cartoon style episode of something because it would have been perfect. Like, I actually I felt for Ursa. I felt for Anders RIP and watching just like the whole thing. Like you said, it was the coolest kill of all of them.
Alfredo Brown:Vigg, I'm I'm curious because you and I had a little bit of a disagreement here because I didn't love the sequence in Japan. Was that your favorite one? Yes. No. If not, you know?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:No. Not my favorite. I think for all the same reasons Sam said, think Ursa is the most well fleshed out and written story. It has the most gravitas to it, and I think just again, primitive stuff, the way they use shields. Right?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, we've we've all seen dog fights and bullets, and we've seen samurais with their swords. Have we seen shields used so effectively? I don't know. So for a lot of reasons, that is my favorite, but I didn't hate the Japan one at all. I actually thought it was just a different kind of storytelling, a lot more visual and auditory storytelling.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Right? A lot great sound design that whoever did the Foley work for, like, the rooftops and everything else, there's no dialogue. It was a great example of show, don't tell. You see the brothers, you see them separate. I still think it has its own gravitas.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I just think it was a different way of telling a story that I really enjoyed. The animation was great. The the way they finish them off when the leaf lands on, like, the invisible one and how that ended and everything is really fantastic and well thought out. I thought the Torres story in World War two one was I get it. You need it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:You need it sometime, but like a bunch of just like quips and all this sort of stuff. Was like a Saturday morning cartoon excerpt from when I was a kid. And and it was fine. You know, it it it was not bad.
Alfredo Brown:But he felt more like the the resolution to the story. Yeah. Like, I I actually think to me that was the weakest part of the entire movie is is the him
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Completely agree.
Alfredo Brown:Feeling out the alien spaceship where, like, the dad, after years of working on a car, is like, oh, yeah. Your engine's flooded. And then he's like, you know what? I'm just gonna do the same thing here. I'm just gonna rub the alien spaceship until it likes it.
Alfredo Brown:And okay. Look. I I know how to drive it now. You know? The weakest part.
Matt Kopfhamer:A 100%. Everyone knows that you can intuitively fly an aircraft you've never had any experience with just by dealing. Like, everybody knows that.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Exactly. He's not even
Vignesh Doraiswamy:a good mechanic. He's a mechanic. He's a bad mechanic.
Alfredo Brown:And it's a
Samantha Holt:plane into war.
Jagger May:I find it I find it weird that, they would pick him. I I don't know, man. It's just like you're a good pilot. Like, okay. Go do a dog fight.
Jagger May:Yeah. That's not meant. Like, he was put him in a dog fight. Yeah. I I guess.
Jagger May:It's just and, one thing we didn't bring up, though, is, like, no one did shit when when they were breaking out. Everyone was just watching it. I wonder, like, they don't got Bravo TV on planet Yautja. You know, they don't got shit to watch over there. They don't got ninja warrior.
Jagger May:So, like, literally, like, oh, wow. This nigga's about to get out. And they just, like, sit there. No one does anything. No one helps, does nothing, and they let him, like, dip out.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Is that they just fight, man. They respect the fight.
Jagger May:That's what
Matt Kopfhamer:I was saying. It was
Jagger May:just like, I mean, there's respect until the
Matt Kopfhamer:Grendel King was like, let's go hunting. And they're like, oh, okay. Cool. Go time.
Alfredo Brown:By the way, I couldn't stop laughing when, when Torres went full Drax and was like, ah, you kill him from the inside. Little steps. Yeah.
Samantha Holt:Which also was kind of a little weird because we don't see him actually in any hand to hand combat up until that point. He is just a pilot. Yeah. Which, I mean Yep. You know, in a Barely.
Samantha Holt:He's a ninja. Kill him from the inside. But, like, that was interesting too because I'm like, I can't see him with any knife skills or any actual fighting skills outside of
Alfredo Brown:Yeah.
Samantha Holt:But you don't
Vignesh Doraiswamy:need anything to stab.
Matt Kopfhamer:Basic training.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I know
Samantha Holt:I could stab somebody, but, like, I'm just
Matt Kopfhamer:saying hand to hand in basic training.
Jagger May:I bet you have, Sam. I can see it behind you.
Alfredo Brown:Like, not yet, but keep going, Jack. Think about
Samantha Holt:it every day.
Jagger May:The plot twist on my Stabbing time. Obviously, I I think we all agree. This was an Ursa movie, and then everyone else was kinda side characters at this point. Like, she had the best plot line. But the
Matt Kopfhamer:predator sacrificed herself, and we see her at the end getting refrozen. So she's coming she's coming back. She has to.
Jagger May:Yeah. And but I think the the Japan predator was, like, the best one. And, like, I I wanna say, like
Alfredo Brown:Of course.
Jagger May:Even the silhouette on there, he was up there at Orpharma and hitting the the the the the fucking Spider Man on top of the building, watching people and shit like that. Like, like, dude had the vibes down. I was way into that one. Obviously, the least favorite predator, maybe Baldi in the jet, but homie, the the big
Vignesh Doraiswamy:person Yeah.
Jagger May:Like the thick thick predator or whatever. That dude was just a big brawny idiot. You could tell how he lost his hand. Dang. And that's just by being arrogant and just kinda dumb, and that's how he lost.
Jagger May:And but I do think Ursa would have be would probably be all three of those predators. Even give her a jet. She don't need to feel it or whatever. She only speak English. She'll calm a bitch and be like, alright.
Jagger May:Cool. Let's go. You know? And then she'll throw a shield out the window or some shit and kill him. Like, I think Ursa is the killer of killers out of all the entire predator franchise in my opinion.
Matt Kopfhamer:I'm I'm not gonna lie. When she pulled out the dual wielding, like, razor edge shield, I was like, alright. This we're gonna cook.
Alfredo Brown:That was just
Matt Kopfhamer:sickest. That was so
Samantha Holt:fucking I'm like, she's running in with
Jagger May:And then
Matt Kopfhamer:when she saw the axe pop out and then turn in the in the ground, she was like, my baby.
Jagger May:Yeah. She's
Samantha Holt:like, you guys
Jagger May:are done.
Alfredo Brown:You're done.
Jagger May:It's over for you. You guys are
Alfredo Brown:all fucked. So did everyone did everyone realize that, like, even though these were all different weapons and they were, like, part of whoever the the humans were. Right? And, like, that was sort of a home game for them. These are all weapons that we do end up seeing later for the predators in, like, varying ways.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Like, noticed that. Right? It's like the shield that Ursa uses is like the same shield that we see the predator I mean, I'm gonna use the most specific example I can remember is in alien versus predator where he holds one one of the people up against the wall and decapitates him. It goes for having that little, like, half circle that's open to closing.
Alfredo Brown:Like, that was I saw that, and I'm like, oh, this is cool. It it really hits on how they're learning from each of their prey, not just trying to best them, but they're continuing to pick up on, like, what can make them the ultimate fighter. And the weaponry And
Matt Kopfhamer:that ties into Yes. Yeah. That ties into directly what Lawrence Fishburne said in predators where it's like every season, he's like, every once in while, one of us will kill one of them, and that's when shit gets really interesting. Then they'll come back with different tactics, different weapons, different everything because they're learning, they're evolving, and they're not resting in their laurels. Like, they want to be the galaxy's ultimate killing hunters.
Matt Kopfhamer:And so that's why we continuously seeing new technology, new weaponry, new tactics. And yet at the end of the day, their biggest weakness is still their hubris. Because they think they're the best, they can be bested.
Samantha Holt:Yeah.
Jagger May:I wish they had a purpose. Like, they're just killing the kill. Like, are they, like, getting the war?
Matt Kopfhamer:They're basically gal they're galaxy's rednecks.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:No. No. No. We actually have something codified for the time ever. The movie starts with go among the stars and seek only the strongest prey.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:They shall be your trophy. Become the killer of killers. So we actually get For what?
Jagger May:No. Like, it's like, wait. Wait. You're gonna That's same reason for
Matt Kopfhamer:the battle.
Alfredo Brown:Using big words, and I'm taking it as disrespect. That's their bible.
Matt Kopfhamer:Right? Battle beast goes out and kills and tries to find the best adversary. It's just it's We've
Vignesh Doraiswamy:always known this. Right? We've we've assumed and, like, guessed and figured that that's what the predators are about, and that's what the Yautja do. But this and I don't know where we get this information. Maybe we find out later.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:This is, like, a translated into English version of the Yautja codex. Their codex. This is like their bible, so to speak. Mhmm. And I one thing I didn't notice until I read it out loud again just now was like, they shall be your trophy, I think ties in very well to how things end.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:They don't want them to die. I initially read that. When I saw that at thought of trophies. Like, you know, chop their head off, mount them on a wall. That's your trophy.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:No. Their trophies keeping them alive so they can fight them again and again and again perhaps. So I liked it.
Alfredo Brown:It almost shows, like, how they're even more advanced than humans. I obviously, for so many other reasons, but even, like, you mentioned the trophy thing of putting the heads up on the wall, like, they're actually just keeping them cryogenically freezing them and seeing what else they can do with them. And, like, there's been lore throughout the different movies of, yeah, they're using spinal fluid, and they're doing this and that. And, like, there there's a lot to it.
Jagger May:Yeah. They're doing
Matt Kopfhamer:they're both like, this could just be but this could just be one one tribe's version of what that means. Like, this could be their interpretation of that codex, or another tribe is like, no. You have to kill them to earn the trophy. There you go. We're watching Protestants where there's a Catholics in space.
Alfredo Brown:You think it all started with, like, one, like, really skinny Yautja that just got bullied, and he was like, never again. Yeah. He's And then
Samantha Holt:that's it.
Alfredo Brown:Like, he became their Jesus.
Jagger May:He saw one Andrew Tate video. He's just like, I'm an asshole. Oh, man. You know? Oh, I love the way their codex is like the opposite of the bible.
Jagger May:They're like, don't go and multiply. Go to subtract. Go to kill people.
Alfredo Brown:You got too many Thanos' wet dream.
Jagger May:Yeah. Oh,
Matt Kopfhamer:Thanos versus predator. Let's do it. Get that cock.
Alfredo Brown:On the table, Koff. It's on the table.
Jagger May:Kevin Feige is getting desperate. You saw that Thunderbolt flop.
Matt Kopfhamer:Let's do it.
Alfredo Brown:Aw. Yeah.
Samantha Holt:Just one other little thing I wanted to mention kind of circling up a lot of what you guys have just said in terms of watching the predators evolve. And even in this little anthology, we got, you know, Anders does get a hit on the predator with a spear. We see a spear again in the anthology. But it's an evolved one that then bisects you in half, which is insanely cool. Yeah.
Samantha Holt:That was awesome. That was an awesome kill. But we're also seeing them evolve, you know, across these different universes and all the movies that we obviously just watched. And the technology allows them, depending on the tribe and depending on the predator, to go back and watch that predator's kill, and then you have other predators come back and retrieve them if they do pass. So watching that little bit, taking that going into badlands and going back and just seeing how different tribes evolve.
Samantha Holt:I'm excited to see what the different tribes of predators do to continue to evolve and how they change. And I think that's what this movie does really well is remind you it's kind of circling in different ways back and
Alfredo Brown:And if I'm Does this that's
Jagger May:a question?
Alfredo Brown:Also record everything? Because we've seen that before. We're like and they're just like they're just up in the locker room watching game film. Like, they're prepping for the next big fight.
Jagger May:And they always travel in threes. Then that that's how they know. Like, they saw
Matt Kopfhamer:Hunnies. Parties.
Jagger May:Yeah. Home like, they they watched Danny Glover take out. I'm like, oh, you know, homie had a bad rap. You know? Give him give him your shitty weapon.
Jagger May:Not the good one. Like, give him the fuck and then dip out. Yeah. It's like filling our insiders. It's like, no.
Jagger May:You get the little one.
Alfredo Brown:Okay. So we've we've done a whole lot of breakdown of this movie, but every time we watch something, we review it and we give it a score. So I want to hear everybody's score here on a scale from one to ten, ten obviously being the best that's reserved for the the best of the best out there. So, who wants to start us off? Sam.
Matt Kopfhamer:I'll go
Alfredo Brown:Sam.
Matt Kopfhamer:Of course, Sam. No.
Jagger May:Ladies You're You're last
Alfredo Brown:because you'd
Matt Kopfhamer:for obvious reasons. Yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Cream.
Jagger May:Cream.
Samantha Holt:As a side note, on our in our text, we have different emojis for what we look like when we're reviewing things. And I feel like I'm just myself. I'm just like, two big thumbs up. This is amazing. I I had so much fun watching this.
Samantha Holt:I don't always gravitate towards animations like this. But for the artistic side of it and for what it did for the lore, for the story, for predator going forward and going back, I'm gonna give it a nine. Not gonna give it a 10, but I'm gonna give it a nine. I really enjoyed it. And I liked even the parts, Vig, that you mentioned with the samurai, how they didn't need to lean into dialogue to tell a good story.
Samantha Holt:The beginning, how they were able to bring you in with Ursa's story. And there were parts of Tora's story that I did enjoy even though I found it slightly faulty. The way it all brought back at the end with the final fight scene, thought was really successful. And, again, I think I'm just too amped to see how this ties into Badlands and alien earth and everything else.
Alfredo Brown:Vig, let's hear yours.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. I was gonna give this a seven or eight because I just found Torres to be detracting overall. I think that you could have you could have the same setting and made it that much better, and still like built a story better than too much of the like the, oh, I'm just gonna like, you know, speed racer field the plane and figure out what to do, or I'm gonna take this thing out, like using some, you know, really weird you know, whatever it was. Torres' story felt a little weak. His quips just were driving me insane.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Was like, think, Torres, think. I'm like, man, I'm done with that era of cartoon dialogue. But because of this Grendel King's cape that looked like he was made from a bunch of xenomorph tales, I'm gonna give this stick this on the higher end because
Samantha Holt:I love that little callback.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I love how they built in lots of little stuff. There's breadcrumbs everywhere here. And even though Torres wasn't perfect, I think at worst, this is an eight out of 10 for me. Thoroughly enjoyable. I really loved it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Probably my favorite predator related piece of content out there.
Alfredo Brown:Jag, let's hear it.
Jagger May:As I'm gonna give this a rare nine. I thought this was a a nine. Like, this was incredibly enjoyable. Like like, Torres, was he a vibe killer? No.
Jagger May:I think he was a vibe dampener. Know, like, I'm just like, okay, cool, Torres. Let let's let Ursa cook, you know, but like other than that, just the action and especially what like Sam, you said you don't watch animation and you're, I mean, you're a fucking illustrator. You know? Like, the the the this is a this is a type of thing that brings people into animation.
Jagger May:And even just for that alone, I think it gets a a point bump for me if it even if it is an eight for Torres. So solid nine.
Alfredo Brown:So after watching this movie, I thought that they like you guys have said, the animation was beautiful. I thought there was a few things here and there. I'm like, I wish I would have had more context. I wish it could have been a little bit longer in different parts. I would have loved more of certain characters, less of other characters.
Alfredo Brown:I'm not going to add to anything that hasn't been said here. But then when I started to think about it and think of the implications, I started to say, Damn, this universe can really go to like new places that we haven't been. So I was originally going to give this an eight. I'm going to give this a nine because of what this could mean for the predator universe and cinematic universe. Okay?
Alfredo Brown:Don't take that out of context pervs that have been watching this whole time. Nine here for this movie franchise. Koff, where are you at?
Matt Kopfhamer:I'll give it a 9.5. It wasn't perfect
Alfredo Brown:Oh, daddy.
Matt Kopfhamer:Because of Torres. Yeah. It it was because of Torres' story. I felt like if they had followed the captain voiced by Michael Bean instead, it would have been a 10, for me. But everything you guys said, it it just this movie slapped from start to finish.
Matt Kopfhamer:Frame one to the last frame, it was just a ride. And I was here for it the whole time. I was having a great I actually went back and rewatched the last, like, twenty minutes the next day just because I was like, it was so good. I need to rewatch it and see what I missed. And I wish one thing I wish we had gotten at the end was more of the Grendel King actually fighting and maybe trying to stop them from getting on the ship.
Matt Kopfhamer:It felt a little rushed. So it it's not a perfect movie, but it was the damn good time. And if you haven't seen it, I don't know why you're watching all the way to the end of this video if you haven't seen it yet, but go and watch it. It's worth your time even if you're not a fan of animation.
Jagger May:Let's make Grendel King canon. Like, his name is Grendel King. Don't care if he's got, like, a clicky grumble name. It's Grendel King. And Grendel King.
Alfredo Brown:100%. By the way, as I was watching, all I was thinking of was from the movie, predators where Adrian Brody makes it look like he stole the ship, the ship starts to fly away, and the predators goes beep, beep, beep, and and just blows it up. Thought that the Grendel King was just gonna do that. Be like, nah. You're not getting out
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of here.
Matt Kopfhamer:Mhmm. Bye.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Thought they were gonna
Jagger May:do that. They they kinda left
Alfredo Brown:it for the thrill of the hunt, though.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. They're gonna die. Right? Can we disagree? Like, Samurai man with
Matt Kopfhamer:one hand and my boy Flores who
Alfredo Brown:barely they
Vignesh Doraiswamy:they're done. Like,
Jagger May:Ursa that shit?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. Ursa continues. She's okay. This guy what is he gonna do? Leave the planet, go to another planet?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, they're done. Their story's
Alfredo Brown:surprise me if in Badlands, we just have a bunch of variations of all these Frozen characters that we've seen.
Jagger May:Yep. You gotta think about it from a Torres' perspective. We haven't even had space travel yet. Like, homie homeboy hasn't even, like
Alfredo Brown:You don't even know where to go. Yeah. Here with fucking MapQuest trying to figure out
Samantha Holt:how next door. This is not just like you get off the 405, and it's on your right. It's like
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Because the implication is that the The US the UTCHA have intergalactic travel. So who knows if they have light speed technology? Like, clearly, they're doing car they're they're cryofreezing themselves while they're traveling. Like, so all of this technology, Torres, and it's not in English.
Matt Kopfhamer:It's not written in English. It's in it's in the the predator language. So this motherfucker's gonna get to the upper atmosphere and be like, I don't know what to do anymore.
Alfredo Brown:I don't know if
Vignesh Doraiswamy:he's gonna try
Jagger May:to go to the upper atmosphere.
Matt Kopfhamer:In the back. I I don't know.
Jagger May:But Samurai Lodex was launching,
Matt Kopfhamer:like, 1950. Out. So
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Does this guy even know what to do? Yeah. He tied it off. Come on, cough. Little dick's tight.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Completely bad.
Samantha Holt:Big, you're a doctor. That's fine. Right?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Was just a house
Jagger May:or man.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:World totally fine. Yeah.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Okay.
Jagger May:We gotta cut her off.
Alfredo Brown:Too long because we're just gonna start to lower our scores if we analyze the ending too much here. Which, by the way, this was a lot
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of fun. This is the
Alfredo Brown:time all five of us have been on the show together, and we're gonna be back again for an episode later this week, which feels topical in in all well, hope not the wrong ways, but in all, you know, fun ways here where we're gonna take our favorite characters in the universes that we love, and we are finally gonna give them an ethnic home. We're doing the racial draft. We're gonna be selecting all of our favorite characters from Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Lord of the Rings, any crazy movie, coffee, put on Terminator there. I'm gonna be very curious to see what happens to the the t 1,000. But, yeah, we're gonna be each representing all of our different, our different ethnicities and drafting for the racial draft later on this week.
Alfredo Brown:So that'll be a fun one. No prewatching required. Just show up. Have a good time. And as always, just wanna thank everybody for watching or listening to this one all the way through.
Alfredo Brown:This is gonna be a long one here for myself, for Jag, for Koff, for Vig, for Sam. We'll see you next time. Adios.
