On today's episode of UnBinge we're giving you our review and breakdown of Alien Earth episode three. We're going be talking about what Morrow has planning with the Lost Boys. He asked that question, when is a machine not a machine? Also, Boy Cavalier upped some evil stuff. He's got something cooking over there with the synths and curly in specific.
AlfredoBrown:Then what makes Wendy so unique from the other synths? And is there some sort of connection with the xenomorph that we haven't seen yet? All that and more on an episode of Unbinge starting.
Samantha Holt:This is your official spoiler warning. If you have not watched episode three of Alien Earth, go watch it right now because we're about to spoil the shit out of it.
AlfredoBrown:Guys, we have a really interesting concept. I think last week's most interesting character in the episodes were was Morrow. Right? The the cyborg who's been out on this mission. We find out it's been sixty five years as all of a sudden there is the granddaughter Yutani that he is now responding to.
AlfredoBrown:We find out he had a family. He had a daughter. Basically, he's given up everything, and it's kind of what we talked about last week. He's really barely human anymore. And they dove into that a little bit here, where even he's asking these moral ethical questions to the Lost Boys.
AlfredoBrown:But this whole mission is his life's work. It seems like he has some guilt going on, but now he is making this connection with Lightly, one of the Lost Boys there, and it seems like there is a relationship brewing. He asked that question, When is a machine not a machine? JAG, what do you think he's planning here? Because he obviously seems like he is picking maybe the weakest or easiest one to infiltrate or create a relationship with here in Lightly.
Jagger May:Yeah. It's it's crazy how easy he was able to clock everything. And I really wanna dive into, like, how much is going on under the hood with him. Because, when I was watching this and especially how it ended, I feel like with boy cavalier, like, it's the the pool meme where he's holding up Wendy. And then, what's your name?
Jagger May:What's the the Curly? The suck up one. Curly is over here drowning. And then you have slightly down here that's literally dying, like, already drowning here, and no one's really paying attention to him. You know?
Jagger May:And he's the weak one, and clearly, there's mind hacking, and that's gonna be your way in. Because when he was talking to to young Yutani, he's like, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get all my creatures back because this is my life. I'm like, alright, homie. You barely made it out with with two kids and Kirsch, so good luck. But then when you see how he can how how he can get in such a a stealth way and realizing that these are literal children, it's gonna be incredibly easy.
Jagger May:Just gonna haunt that that little homie's dreams, you know, and get in somehow.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That shit. Yeah. Look.
Jagger May:The thing is is we know that this won't be successful. Like, that it just won't happen. I'm not saying he won't get in, but I don't know if anyone's gonna get out.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I honestly don't even think he's gonna get to the island. I think he's gonna completely do everything remotely through lightly and he or and or slightly. Slightly. Yep. And utilize him either through direct brain hacking like you mentioned or just by manipulating him.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Because clearly, this is a man with decades of experience in seemingly almost no conscious anymore. So he's not above utilizing and manipulating a child or a childlike mentality to get his end goal. So especially when he pulled back, he's like, you said something so wise to me earlier. And you could see slightly be like, what the fuck did I say? And then he hits him with the everybody needs a friend.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And that's when slightly it's like, oh, damn. I have to be his friend now. So it's a clear manipulation, and I think it ties into the theme of almost, like, grooming, like like, child predation and and grooming. And we see it again with boy cavalier later with Curly, which we'll talk about. But Morrow is not a good guy in any means.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He is there for one thing, and that's that's his life's work, like you mentioned, the creatures, and getting Yutani's bioweapons back, which I think is gonna end poorly for everyone involved.
Samantha Holt:I mean, it's alien earth, so it's not gonna go great. Yeah.
Jagger May:That that that that's what my point is. It's just like like, my theory is that Prodigy, the reason why we don't see that in the future is because we're about to watch that shit die right now. Like, there's there's six eggs in there. The human nature to try to look directly into the egg is gonna kill this entire Are
AlfredoBrown:we gonna
Matthew Kopfhamer:have person just looking up and looking at it like, are you really gonna be that dumb right now? Alright. Get the fuck out.
AlfredoBrown:I mean, it's exactly what they did. And they even expanded on it that the and we'll we'll talk about it more, but, like, the egg can actually feel Sense. When there is an organism close to it. I'm sure it's probably, like, body heat and and Sent that
Samantha Holt:last week.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Later. Mhmm.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So back to back to Morrow here. We we sort of got off track a little bit here.
AlfredoBrown:Sam, I I know we know that Morrow is not a good guy. I don't think he's the worst guy here in this show. When he asked the question, when is a machine not a machine, he's obviously clocked everything pretty fast. He's figured out that these are kids. He's asking to Kirsch, are you the parent?
AlfredoBrown:Why do they think they have parents? Right? Like, he's figuring it out. It kinda feels like there's still, like, a little bit of humanity left in there because he brings up the know, his daughter. Is is is there any speck of goodness left in Morrow here aside from taking the call from a weird BDSM club?
Samantha Holt:I do feel like there is a level of humanity still there. And I wonder if it's just so buried because he's put everything in his work, And he's made that very clear. Like, from that phone call with Yutani, you know, he's been doing this since, you know, he was working with her grandmother on all of this. So he's had to make so many sacrifices over the years in order to continue to achieve a goal. It sounds like his family and his child were part of those sacrifices.
Samantha Holt:So part of him probably still wants to believe that there was a real reason for that sacrifice, a greater good for it, or something towards something better, And that's the reason why he made all of those things. I feel like that's buried again with the mission, which is obviously very clear and important to him. But at the same time, there's gotta be an underlying drive why. And I do feel like because he mentioned his family. He wouldn't have mentioned them if they weren't still important to him.
Samantha Holt:He would have made it much more casual if he mentioned them at all. I do feel like that's gonna be a part of it of, like, when he finally if he does end up going to your going to the offices at Yutani before he goes to the island or if he doesn't go to the island at all, love the puppet idea of him not even having to go there to mess stuff up. But whatever kind of rubber meets the road thing with Yutani happens, how that relationship goes and how that meeting happens, I think, is gonna be very pivotal because he's done so much for this company, and everything has been hinging on this mission. And depending on how that goes, he could turn very quickly against it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Two questions I have for you guys. Do you think there's anything he can do to redeem himself at this point? And two, do you think, like Sam just mentioned, he's gonna turn against Yutani at some point?
Samantha Holt:I think that because he's been trying to find and hunt down all these specimens for so long, he has and he obviously just downloaded the super cute computer from the spaceship, all the knowledge Which
AlfredoBrown:is really cool, by the way.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Super cool scene. Yeah.
Samantha Holt:That was intense. But at the same time, he has all the knowledge of these creatures and how to capture them. So obviously, they just caught them and took them to the Neverland Island. He's gonna know how to, if he needs to, defeat them, but how to utilize these monsters against, you know, Prodigy as well.
AlfredoBrown:I wonder if there's a it's maybe not a redemption thing, but it's also probably a little bit of the corporate espionage of, like, we created the problem, but look, we're also the one solving the problem. And you didn't know that we created this. We just had a crash. This was actually Prodigy's fault. Like, they did it.
AlfredoBrown:Look at Weyland Yutani. We're over here solving it. And that's It's the corporate spin job that we get in PR.
Jagger May:That's government. I mean and these corporations have essentially replaced government too. You know?
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Yeah. Guys, last week, we said that Morrow was the most interesting character, in the story so far. Do we believe that's changed? Is that now maybe not most interesting, but the character we had the most questions about.
Jagger May:I think he's still as interesting, but he's not the most interesting just because everyone else has just elevated. Like, there I don't there's not a single person I I don't have interest in. Even the little doctor who was just like, how could you put her out there? Even that little moment, I'm like, okay. I like you.
Jagger May:You're not a company man. Like, I wanna see some more of that shit. You know? I wanna see more of, like all I could call her is doctor Tinkerbell because I don't know of her name in here where
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh, okay.
Jagger May:So actually yeah. So where yeah. She actually, like, cares. You know? So to me, Moro is the to me, the alien is getting less and less interesting and not in the fact that I don't care about it, but it is it is an environmental hazard and a plot device, whereas the other players on the board are the actual chess pieces moving around.
Jagger May:You know? Yeah. This this episode
AlfredoBrown:oops. Sorry. Sorry. Go go for it, Koff.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I was just gonna say this episode really highlighted for me how much more interesting I interested I am in some of the Lost Boy children, like Nibs having, like, a PTSD mental breakdown seemingly. And then Curly having that jealousy and, like, wanting to be the new favorite. That to me is more interesting this episode. So they've really like you mentioned, Jack, they really elevated themselves character wise for me, and I'm really like, what's gonna happen next? It's this show is just getting me, like, my theory crafting brain going a thousand miles a minute.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So it's awesome. I love it.
AlfredoBrown:I think it's actually been brilliant to lean away from the xenomorph and the alien, use it as a plot device. The alien is essentially a gun, right? Like your your story about a gun can only be so interesting. But the stories about the people that wield that weapon or get harmed by that weapon can be way more interesting. And and that's, I mean, that's kind of what Alien and and all the movies in the series have always been.
AlfredoBrown:And so, Koff, you mentioned the Lost Boys here. I will say this. The scene with Smee and Slightly talking with Morrow was probably my favorite of the entire episode. Like, they crushed that.
Jagger May:That's classified. I would do.
AlfredoBrown:I would do I would do a whole series of of these guys, like a buddy cop comedy of them in the future. Those two
Matthew Kopfhamer:Those two comparing the alien stories be like, then then the one alien did this. He's like, oh, but then a 12 foot alien did that. And I was like, oh, I missed it. I fucking love that.
AlfredoBrown:I just love that. Usually Dude, you said a bad word.
Jagger May:Yeah. You said that, Frank, that was a fight. Like like, literally, that is that is adolescence from, like like, boyhood friends on here. It's just, like, literally, I just hit you in the face. It's like, that's a funny joke, though.
Jagger May:And then you just, like, move on with your life. They
Matthew Kopfhamer:definitely things here. Sorry. I was just gonna say Go go go. I think that they that scene, I was really worried when they introduced the concept of these children's minds in synthetic bodies. I was like, ah, is this gonna get to the point where I'm just, like, rolling my eyes in the back of my head because it's too child goofiness.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But I think that they walked the line really well in that scene and made it funny enough and just goofy enough to be like, yep. There's still children's minds, but it's not annoying.
AlfredoBrown:Well and they've gone a step further where the children's minds are not just there for humor to be manipulated. We're actually getting good questions from them. Or even when Mauro is asking these moral and ethical questions to them, they're asking him questions right back. Like, what if I'm defending my friends? And then they go into, everybody needs friends.
AlfredoBrown:And then we have, I believe it was Nibs who was asking, you know, like, do we have boys names? And Wendy's the only one that gets to be Wendy. Like, we're actually getting it's the the the eyes, like, through a child's mind. Like, we're getting the questions that we should be asking that a lot of times adults just overlook. So there is that sort of connection to what boy Cavalier was saying, which is that child's mind has the elasticity and the infinite imagination to maybe ask and do the things that an adult wouldn't do.
AlfredoBrown:But I I'd say all that to lean into this. And Sam, I want to get your take on this is we find out that Prodigy is able to watch and listen to everything that these since these hybrids are doing through their eyes. I don't I have less of a question, more of just an exclamation of holy shit. Like, what are where are they going with this? And, like, what was your reaction when you see that for the first time?
Samantha Holt:I mean, I think that I wasn't surprised because they're all technically built, so it makes sense for them to track
Matthew Kopfhamer:Their IDs.
Samantha Holt:These assets. Yeah. And even when they're going through the comms in the ear, it makes sense that they would not only have, you know, the ability to talk to them this way, but they'd be able to see what they're seeing to give them directions going forward. But and I know you guys have talked a little bit about the grooming aspect that kind of laid into this episode quite a bit. But then there's, like I'm gonna kind of deviate a little bit because there was, like, a funny moment I thought where it's just Curly, I think, was like, well, we don't poop.
Samantha Holt:Like, we're not people. So like there's this certain element of these like
AlfredoBrown:He has no need for a butthole.
Samantha Holt:No no need for a butthole. So like not to like go that direction, but like there's a certain amount of like, it doesn't seem like they're gonna be sexual beings because or, like, are they just the robots and the puppets? But I don't know. Like, I don't know. I question how much of that is gonna get weird because it was obvious on all the characters' faces when it's like, you can see what we see?
Samantha Holt:Oh. Like second guessing everything that they're doing because everyone's watching what they're doing. But like how much of this because all of the scientists are watching what all of these synths are doing. And you bring up the the dame. Oh, yeah.
Samantha Holt:I'm just gonna call her Tinkerbones, Yeah. The She was that was too funny. But, like, she obviously has a very deep caring for all of these kids, all of these synthetics. And I don't think that pointed out very clearly, Alfredo, there's a lot of people that work for this company that are not true company people. They have lots of disagreements with Guy, and I feel like there's gonna be a there's probably gonna be something that comes up that gets real hairy there.
Samantha Holt:But, like, at the same time, I feel like there's too many people that would impede on something really bad happening to any of these synthetics. At least that maybe that's just me trying to, like, find a silver lining of, no. Nothing too bad can happen because there's other people watching too, not just guy.
AlfredoBrown:I wanna go back that not too far, but, like, a a small step back here of the question, when is a machine not a machine? And I think the inherent answer here is when it has a Or or that too, when it has a ghost, which I know that's a dollar in the ghost in the shell jar, JAG. We will watch it. I promise. We'll do it.
AlfredoBrown:Think a lot of that
Matthew Kopfhamer:is not only.
AlfredoBrown:Oh, I'm in. I think a lot of that, like, that question is is, obviously, it's gonna be, like, setting up a little more in the future about how, like, these are not just straight robots. These are not just straight synths. Like, these are they still have the child's mind. They still have child emotions.
AlfredoBrown:They answer questions in a way that are different than a normal, than a normal synth would. Like, these are still hybrids. And I think a lot of it too is still a bit of Morrow trying to preserve his own humanity. Like, that's why he's asking these questions. That's why he's he's almost upset that he's lost his family, lost his daughter.
AlfredoBrown:He's talking to the granddaughter of Yutani. Like, this is it's not the same thing. Like, there's I think there's going to be a little bit of an emotional thing there where he's gonna be the guy that probably leads some sort of a hybrid Lost Boys revolution here against Prodigy, or maybe he has to be the one to put them out of their misery. Like, I I I think it it probably comes full circle where it's he let the crew die at the beginning, and then at the end of this, he's gonna be the one that has to let or make all of the prodigy Lost Boys die at the end.
Jagger May:What if there's a third option?
AlfredoBrown:Let's hear it.
Jagger May:I wanna go to Kirsch because, again, understanding how this trope and these stories work, Kirsch inherently and, guys, when I say I I'm not trying to put a quarter in the jar. The term ghost comes from that you're no longer just AI and you become sentient. That's just like the term soul where you officially your own entity, you develop emotion and individuality. And that is a lot of the, the concepts like Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell. So here, I think we're seeing Kirsch develop a ghost.
Jagger May:Because it I think of the scene where he's watching Smee and, and Slightly just be, quote, unquote, kids, and he's literally helped raising these people. And I don't think he can relate to flesh and blood, but he finally sees people that are just like him and have the same body. And I think he is the one that I most suspect to flip the script on someone like Boy Cavalier because he's also had these resentments where he's just like, was it worth it? Your new bright and shiny thing? And, to me, I think he is the real wild card to where we'll see the opposite what we've seen in the other alien franchises, where these synthetics are just these control of apathy that oftentimes means the death of these organic people, and he starts to act a little bit more like Wendy.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Honestly, like, I got super David vibes from Kirsch, like, especially when he was experimenting on the egg and implanting the
AlfredoBrown:And just for people watching, listening, David from Prometheus.
Matthew Kopfhamer:From Prometheus and Covenant. Yes. Thank you.
AlfredoBrown:And Covenant.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Michael Fassbender's character who seemingly created the Xenomorphs in those movies. But I I I definitely when he was doing his experiments and he was doing that, it just his his his the way he presented himself in that scene just gave me flashbacks to how David acted in covenant and Prometheus especially. So I wonder if we're gonna get a slight maybe deviation from that or another version of that where he turns against Boyd Cavalier and and Ovo almost takes over everything as his own, like, experimentation and and in pursuit of this perfect specimen or perfect organism. So I wonder if we're gonna see that or if they're gonna go, like you said, in a different direction.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So I I don't know. It's it's interesting. I I wanna see what Noah Hawley has in store for these characters because too many directions I can think of.
Samantha Holt:I really like the direction that JAG posed though with Kirsch being, the wild card and that he can be the anchor point that goes against Guy and the system as opposed to the David in the Prometheus where he was also experimenting but he had a different personal agenda. Like it just seems like, I don't know. Feel Superiority. Yeah. Superiority complex.
Samantha Holt:And I don't necessarily think I see a superiority complex curse, but I do see is someone that has been, walked all over and utilized and used in a lot of senses by prodigy, by guy specifically. And he's going to be able to leverage and use the lost boys in terms of, like, they're not only their supercomputers and their minds, but helping him think of other ways. And I think I I agree in terms of, like, I do feel like he could end up being a wildcard that overthrows guy. I feel like we're all kind of leaning on, like, someone's gonna overthrow this this guy prodigy. Like, someone's gonna for drama.
Samantha Holt:Who's gonna but who's gonna be the one to do it first? Or is it gonna be from different fronts? Is it going to be Morrow who's trying to get the specimens back? And then is it gonna be Kirsch that's seeing what he's intending for these specimens and wanting to upset what that plan is?
Jagger May:Keep in mind from a philosophical standpoint, two things can be true. Because the key factor is, Kirsch keeps saying, you're no longer animals. So, yes, he can be David, and he views humanity a certain way, but he views the sense like him. So he thinks they are superior to everyone else. So, like True.
Jagger May:Yeah. He could straight up say, you know what? Fuck these humans. Let's go. I got I got me and my kids now, and then we'll raise this army of, fucking weird, bioweapons.
Jagger May:Just call it what it is. You know? Yeah.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Do we think it's a foregone conclusion that this absolutely needs to connect to the next alien movie? No. What if I mean, because there's also the possibility that a bunch of these characters do not die, and they're setting themselves up for a season two and
Jagger May:a season three.
AlfredoBrown:That is gonna happen. Lot.
Jagger May:Yeah. I meant like like, I think this can be five seasons, and it can be contained or it can connect, and it can take its time. And that's what's so unique about it.
Samantha Holt:It's definitely what we've gotten the best job doing is, like, making it and giving us so much context, but so many continued questions that even episode three, like I'm sorry. I'm I'm super excited for the next episode for just to finish the season, and I wanna see more. And they've done a really good job of painting a picture of not only this one season, but options and opportunities for movies and other spin offs and things. No. No.
Samantha Holt:He's done an amazing job.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Let's talk about another character in here. Boy cavalier who is a confirmed evil fuck and him using his feet for things in the future to multitask. No. No.
AlfredoBrown:But you know what? It actually feels like one of the most realistic things in this show because I feel like that is what younger generations will start to do just so that they can enhance their ADHD that much more and be able to do three and four things at a time is just learn how to do stuff with their that come on. Like, that feels like the most genuine
Matthew Kopfhamer:ever thing
AlfredoBrown:we wanna talk about in a hundred years. Like, come on. Like, we are not that far from it. Like, look at let's see, like, the kids that are watching something on their phone, their iPad playing a video game all while, like, doing something else. We're
Jagger May:not Of course, know kids. They're me.
AlfredoBrown:He's me. You know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:If I don't have two screens at one time, it's what's happening right now. Yeah. Yeah.
AlfredoBrown:How many of those screens do you hold with your feet, Koff?
Matthew Kopfhamer:To zero because I'm too old for that shit. Yeah.
Jagger May:Koff has the dexterity of an elephant at this point.
Samantha Holt:Oh, god.
AlfredoBrown:Oh, boy. So I I bring up boy cavalier here because I think that this so we talked about the relationship between the Lost Boys and Morrow here. I actually think that the relationship of Boy Cavalier and the Lost Boys is very interesting because of the fact that we're coming across a character who very much has an arrested development and I think in the first two episodes we look at him as maybe this brilliant genius that's just like an evil corporate bastard. But now, honestly, I'm kind of just looking at him as a person that doesn't even really have a fully developed sense of self or fully developed emotional intelligence because he he makes it such a strong point or a point of emphasis here that prodigies are only special because it is children that are smart. That's why he named the company Prodigy.
AlfredoBrown:And he was a prodigy. But now he's an adult and there's nothing special about him anymore. And that's why I keep leaning into the, oh, he's grabbing stuff for this feat. Like he is remaining this sort of kid in the way he talks, way he acts, his curiosity of putting his face up to to the xenomorph egg, like all these things. And now his relationship that he seemingly has with Curly, he's almost thriving on this sibling rivalry that they have.
AlfredoBrown:And I don't even know that it's him. I know there's, like, the speculation of, like, the sexual stuff. I don't even think it's there.
Jagger May:I don't think it's there either. It's it's very Michael Jackson in multiple levels where I don't we're this is a child talking to a child.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. When I when I say very much a child I think this is very much a child in Boy Cavalier that does not have friends, that does not have anyone that he can relate to, which is why he brings up the conversation thing. I think it's less about him needing someone smart to talk to and more about him having someone to relate to. And we get that moment where he's finding out that Curly is getting really smart really fast and that his hybrids could potentially at some point get smarter than him. And he seems to be almost concerned by that.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So when I when I say grooming, right, I'm not talking, in this instance, a sexual connotation. I'm talking more manipulation. Like, he wants to mold these children into playthings. He even he even, like, lays it out for you. He's like, I'm gonna give you books to read.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'm gonna give you things to listen to, things to watch, and then we'll play. And that shit's creepy as hell because he's trying to manipulate them into being what he wants them to be instead of letting them evolve naturally and grow naturally. And so I think that's why he's never gonna let Curly be the favorite because she's always gonna try to give him what he wants, and there's no fun in that. Whereas Wendy is doing her own thing. She's pursuing her own thing, and he has to almost, like, chase her to to get what he wants from her, which is that intellectual, like, conversation, that relation.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So it's almost like he's gonna he's gonna keep attempting to go after Wendy because she's not interested in playing his games, whereas the other Lost Boys may. And they're gonna be left behind because he's not interested in playing with things that just want to do what he wants to do. He wants to own them and control them completely. And and that's what I talk about when I'm saying, like, grooming.
AlfredoBrown:And that's that's being a child. That's wanting the thing you can't have and not being interested in the thing that is too available. Well, we see an adulthood too. Yeah. Sure.
AlfredoBrown:I'm it that's it's I mean, that's just emotional immaturity. Right? But, like, I I he is an adult. Like, we're saying childhood, but he is an adult. Like, it's all kinda meshing together.
Jagger May:I'm going to pretend to be Sam for just a second and think of what she would say here. And men in general, not very emotionally intelligent people. And the quicker that we learn that, the better that we are. And now we have a person. And I I really leaned into what he said about being a child, and that's what it takes to be a genius or whatever or how they go hand in hand.
Jagger May:And I think about how many of these people who are successful and why they are successful. And children, by definition, are sociopaths. Like, it's actually kind of fascinating that, like, they I think he's right, essentially. And I think he's even leaned into that philosophy that, to point to what you said, Alfredo, where he even keeps himself within that arrested development, where he's like, I need to be this person because I do things out of the sake of imagination and just of doing things and kind of ignoring some of the moral quandaries that we learn and, a lot of the philosophical ways that we approach life. And he just kind of abandons that to be a piece of shit.
Jagger May:So it's fascinating, and I think he's gonna raise even more synthetic pieces of shit now to be sociopaths. Because you look at Curly, that that that's a girl like, man, she could murder somebody real fast. Like, you like, you got you put you put the wrong girl in a fucking tank, dude. Like, you like,
AlfredoBrown:it's kinda fucking dangerous. Thing here, man, is, like, these kids can become really dangerous really fast. We got the nice one out here decapitating a xenomorph out
Jagger May:of necessity. Luckily, she had to get pushed that pushed that far. Yeah. Curly looks like when she pulled the wings off a person just to see I
AlfredoBrown:don't know. Cool.
Jagger May:I think I think
Matthew Kopfhamer:Nibs is the one we should be worried about. I think Nibs, the the redheaded girl, she's Maybe. Clearly going through some shit, and either she's gonna she has one of two pet she's gonna one of two wits. She's either gonna implode and and destroy herself, or she's gonna explode and take everybody out around her. So Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's the one I'm most worried about right now because she is clearly dealing with some some crazy PTSD from both the, iSquid thing trying to take her out and the the transfer, the consciousness transfer. She's still struggling with not being a little girl anymore and not having the control of even picking her own new name. Like, that question of, like, why do we have to get new names, and why couldn't we pick our own new names, is clearly showing that she is already bucking against that system that Boy Caballier has put around them.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Let me ask you guys this. Because I think we are seeing that. We're seeing different levels of comprehension and progressive intelligence from the Lost Boys, like Wendy seems to already have fighting skills because, like, the way she was able to strategize going up against the xenomorph, like, close the door as I'm in here. Does all these different things.
AlfredoBrown:Then there's other questionable decisions. Then we've got Curly, who's out here learning French really fast. But then we kind of see other levels of it with slightly and nibs and Smee. And Smee, where it's like, we're not really seeing much development there. Like, why is that?
AlfredoBrown:Do you think it's because some of these are going out in the field? Do you think it's like it is still some of just their their human brain is still kind of controlling that. Like, if you were smart before this, you're you're gonna be even inherently smarter now.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Like, why do some kids wanna read more books than other kids? Why do some kids wanna run outside? Like, it's just the difference in personality. And so Yeah. I think because we haven't seen them have, like, a structured, okay.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It's time to go to class now. Like, they're pretty much, like, on their own and given a lot of leeway and freedom to explore their new environment on their own. So some kids like Curly are gonna be naturally curious and want to advance themselves because they they have a goal in mind, which is being Boyd Cavalier's favorite. Or you have Shmi and and Slightly who are just kinda goofing around because that's what they did when they were kids still. So I think it's just a natural difference in personality is all we're seeing in that expression.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And
Jagger May:and it's nature versus nurture. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Sam.
Samantha Holt:No. No. I was just gonna say, I I feel like we're almost gonna say the same thing, Jug, because you said nature versus nurture. But I feel like there are moments where what part of their human past selves comes with them. Because Curly said all that Wendy cares about is her brother.
Samantha Holt:Well, we've have had the flashbacks of Wendy with her brother, with her family. We've had those little tiny micro moments where she was loved. She loved people. She had all of that very intentional, you know, interaction with other people in her life. We don't know that of every little, lost boy here.
Samantha Holt:So curious what Curly's relationship was like with her parents, with family. Did she even have that? Because all of these kids are coming from, like, a place of being sick. So were some of them sick and their parents weren't there because it was just too much for them, or were some of them left because they didn't have family? So I think that that's all gonna get layered into their decision making and their choices.
Jagger May:And I would take it a step further where Wendy, she was the first, so they had they they had her regimented. Like, literally, this is the first kid thing where it's just like, here's my first kid. I read five baby books, and here's how we're gonna do it. So she got to do the ninja training and all all of the shit. And then you get the alright.
Jagger May:We're ready to have more kids. They bring in five more, then a fucking spaceship flies in the middle of your city your city here. So, like, during their their their crucial moments, they're like, sorry. Daddy's gotta work. You know?
Jagger May:And then they're like, here here you sit here in color, and, well, holy shit works out. So they didn't even have the foundation that Wendy had. So, it's true Darwinism at that point where Curly's just like, fuck yeah, hook me up to the matrix, teach me French, you know, and then, Slightly's over here drawing xenomorphs. And and I love the child psychology where they made the xenomorph just so fucking huge compared to him. I hate that I had you know, with a child psychologist, I think about that shit.
AlfredoBrown:Very last thing I want to bring up here about the Lost Boys, the kids, Boy Cavalier. And Sam, I want to pose this question to you. At what point do we maybe see that everything kind of stops with them having freedom and ability to go out and do things in the nature versus nurture where boy Cavalier kind of says, they're doing too much. Because at the end of the day, he does have control over them. They can see and hear everything that they're doing.
AlfredoBrown:They can kind of shut them off. Like, is is there a press in case emergency button, a fail safe here for for the Lost Boys?
Samantha Holt:I feel like I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get some level of that restraint of the Lost Boys even by next episode, to be honest. Because it's very clear how quickly I mean, Curly points it out. You know, you gave us these supercomputer brains that I feel like Guy is going to realize that they're going to impede him wanting to do what he wants to do from their own reasons of logic. So they're gonna continue experimenting on these aliens and they're gonna continue making decisions and, you know, Kirsch kicked him out of the room for his safety. But are there gonna be discoveries that these lost boys make on these specimens or even with Wendy as she continues to develop, what's clearly a connection to the xenomorphs?
Samantha Holt:Is he going to look at this as something he needs to stop? I feel like that's gonna happen very quickly. And it is gonna be like a what have I built kind of moment because they are they are already smarter than him. They're already asking the right questions, whereas he's continuing to just play like a child, and they are gonna start to surpass him. I feel like it's gonna happen very quickly.
AlfredoBrown:Jag, this is your moment to shine because we're gonna move on to Kirsch and the creatures that have been procured by Prodigy here.
Jagger May:Mhmm.
AlfredoBrown:And, the petition for you to be the one that names all creatures in the alien verse has passed, and I think we're ready. Yeah. Can we can we hear the names?
Jagger May:Decapitated xenomorph, the headless the headless morphsman.
AlfredoBrown:There oh, I love it.
Jagger May:Yes. Blood blood slug, Mark Zuckerberg. Oh
Samantha Holt:my god.
AlfredoBrown:Okay. Next one.
Jagger May:The the iSquid. I'm just gonna keep the original name, Eyeball Jones.
AlfredoBrown:Okay.
Jagger May:Very That
AlfredoBrown:sounds like a hard hitting detective
Jagger May:from, like, a r series. He sees everything, and he will take over your fucking life. Something big dangling type monster thing, the the big flower. I'm sorry, guys. I dug, I I took the low hanging flute, Clint Barton.
Jagger May:I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't have a lot of time.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Better than what I came up with.
Jagger May:Mhmm. And the face sucker eggs. If if it's worse than mine, just keep that to yourself. Don't even tell me after the show. The facehugger eggs.
Jagger May:I know this is another all I could think of is spermie the whale. Just
Matthew Kopfhamer:just for the people in the comments right now, we do know that the true name of the eggs is ovomorphs. We're just having fun.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. Fun is allowed. So okay. So we got to see all these creatures. Prodigy takes them in.
AlfredoBrown:They're studying them. It does seem like their obvious plan is to figure out how they can think that the excuse is always we're gonna learn. Right? They wanna replicate. They wanna weaponize.
AlfredoBrown:They wanna see how they can profit off of this, what they can do, in the name of science and, ultimately, in the name of commerce. Right?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Trillion dollars of r and d, baby.
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. And and that's exactly why, you know, the boy Cavaliers kind of stopped doing what they were doing with the hybrid kids. And so, wait a second. We got a xenomorph over here.
Matthew Kopfhamer:We're a week from launch. What are we doing?
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. So they they end up here in the lab. Right? They've got all all the creatures. We see them take out a baby xenomorph tadpole.
AlfredoBrown:It gets extracted by Kirsch. And then that was super cool. Really cool to finally see something like that on screen. That was one of those moments, I'm not gonna lie, where it there's plenty of moments in the show. Don't get me wrong.
AlfredoBrown:It is a minimal complaint where it feels like a TV show. I I think some of it is specifically with the Xenomorph itself. That was one of those moments where I say, like, this felt like a movie moment. This felt bigger than a TV show seeing that and then having that little tadpole get extracted and then implanted into if I'm not mistaken, that's Joe's lung?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yep. It's the damaged lung that the xenomorph pierced. So they took it they took it out. Did they replace it with a with a synthetic one or just
AlfredoBrown:left them
Matthew Kopfhamer:with one lung? So they did surgery on his lungs. They took one that was damaged, but did they replace it or they just leave him with one lung? I don't know.
Jagger May:That's the case. Truly I'm not even sure Joe's gonna make it out, to be honest. Like like, to me,
AlfredoBrown:they're just gonna use
Matthew Kopfhamer:yeah. They may keep him as, like, a petri dish. They may just
Jagger May:keep for talking about.
Samantha Holt:Yeah. They're probably gonna keep experimenting with him. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Which way
Jagger May:You're okay with that Alfredo? Let's just say that let's say that loud.
AlfredoBrown:No. I'm okay with that for
Matthew Kopfhamer:the show.
AlfredoBrown:Not like in life. Not like in life. Like yeah. I didn't really like it anyways.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Let's just keep using it.
Jagger May:Nobody had it coming.
AlfredoBrown:No, man. Okay. So with this, we see them they're they're harvesting organs. They're implanting the xenomorphs. What's the plan here?
AlfredoBrown:Is it to make some sort of a synthetic xenomorph maybe? Is it using the brain of a xenomorph, the best parts of a xenomorph, like the blood, but then with a synthetic body, something that they can actually control? Is this like more I hate to use this term because it's marvel y, but like super soldiers where they're creating they're essentially gonna create their own humans and their own creatures, where Prodigy is gonna try to just keep evolution going. Is that is that what you guys see? Because that's kinda where I'm at.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. What if I go ahead, Sam.
Samantha Holt:No. I was just gonna say, like, they did mention the acid for blood, and I think that in itself lends itself so well to being weaponized that I think that that starts off with it. Like, okay. Well, how can we get this and how can we get it in a way that we can control it? But Right.
Samantha Holt:You can't control something like that, so inherently it's flawed. So I do feel like there's gonna be the initial is, well, how can we weaponize? And then how can we improve on what we've already been building? So I do feel like there will be a connection of, like, okay, how can we control the thing? If we can control the thing, how can we add it to the projects that we're already working on, aka these synthetic hybrids?
Matthew Kopfhamer:I was I was wondering if the plan may be to almost do a reversal of what they did with the kids. And instead of doing a human consciousness into a synth body, maybe doing a synth brain into a xenomorph body. And that's your super soldier because now you have say Kirsch running around in a xenomorph body. So I wonder if that may be the end goal once they study the life cycle of the xenomorph and see how, how it's created.
AlfredoBrown:I mean, could even just keep going the other way too. It's like, keep replicating xenomorphs as many times as you can, and then start to give synths or androids or hybrids Like like like Kershon, like these like like these other give them, like, Xeno give them the acid blood. Right? Like, imagine Kersh with acid blood. Like, Instead milk.
AlfredoBrown:Truly waste Yeah. Instead instead instead of the blood milk, which, by the way, just last thing on there is, I want more Kirsch, and I'm hoping that we keep getting that. Timothy Olafonse is killing this role. I love him. I I think that is probably gonna be the most pivotal character going forward because I do feel like we've kind reached the end with some of these characters or at least like we've hit their climactic peak with Kirsch.
AlfredoBrown:I think we're just scratching the surface. Main character, I guess, who's meant to be the main character right now is Wendy. We have sort of this connection that Wendy has to the xenomorph of some sort. I guess the theory is going to be behind the closed door. And while we see that Wendy decapitated the xenomorph, did something happen there Were the xenomorph now implanted something in her?
AlfredoBrown:Is there a connection? Like, why this connection that when something is going on with the eggs because, the we've said this before. Noah Holly doesn't do anything by mistake. So why the connection here with the eggs with the xenomorphs that when there seems to be some sort of stress there, she is also having a a stress herself. She's collapsed on the floor.
AlfredoBrown:And why take that big action scene and do it all behind a closed door? It feels like there there is a question there that needs to be answered for us. I don't think
Samantha Holt:that they're hiding something from I mean, I do feel like there's something that happened behind the closed door, but she was hearing a high frequency of clicking in the last episode too when they were looking for things. And then it just got amplified after the meeting. So I'm very curious. And, again, because they're so dialed into tech and technology and we watched her kind of go through the screens and go through the computers in that other way, is there a level of tech that's within the xenomorphs that we're not really aware of? Because, yes, they're a parasite.
Samantha Holt:We've covered that. But is there just something else on their level of, you know, their anatomy, their DNA, what have you, that fits with the technology that is inside these synthetics that allows her to hear kind of what they're where they're at, where they're feeling.
AlfredoBrown:Like an emotional connection to them because she can hear their their, like, their waves, so to speak.
Samantha Holt:Something on their wavelength. Like, it's not like echolocation if but, like, there's some sort of level of radio frequency that they're communicating in that she's able to tap into. And wonder
AlfredoBrown:if it's seen them more.
Samantha Holt:Well, it's just like a CV radio. Like, maybe the oldest technology is, like, what's working. Like, there's something going on there mentally in her supercomputer brain that's allowing her to dial into what their frequency is.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I feel you. I I
Jagger May:get exactly what you're saying. And I didn't know that Xenomorphs can sense fear. Is that, like, a whole thing? Because that's how Morrow keeps getting by because he's just like
AlfredoBrown:They're like, sure.
Jagger May:Me just shut off my fear for a second, and he's still kind of, like, shitting his pants. I that's the only part I'm a little confused on, and it seems to be a plot point, and I expect them to, like, to pay that off. Like,
AlfredoBrown:it Would it would it be that, like, when you're scared, your your blood is a little bit you're running a little hotter? Maybe you're sweating?
Matthew Kopfhamer:You dump your blood.
Jagger May:Dump,
Matthew Kopfhamer:like adrenaline, shit like that. Yeah. Yeah.
AlfredoBrown:Because they they do that they do that in Romulus where they make the room really hot so you can't sense, like, where the humans are. So that's probably a little bit of it. Right? Like, the adrenaline.
Samantha Holt:Well, that and, like, any kind of predator, like, has, like, heat sensing. Like, vipers and snakes, they can sense heat of, like, where, like, a mice a mouse has been and where they've stepped so they can, like, go and find it. There's these are super predators. We're gonna I mean to call them predators. But, you know, guys, I know what I mean?
Samantha Holt:They're super they're apex predators that are able to hunt and kill for a number of reasons. And I think we're seeing all the different ways that they can utilize those tools.
AlfredoBrown:Well, guys, I think we've, done a good job here going through all of our different story lines. I think the show is doing it's doing a great job of making us care about multiple storylines here. It's not just our main characters. It's not just the alien. It's sort of everything.
AlfredoBrown:And they're doing a good job of giving us answers. More questions. This is what good shows do. I'm I'm in. I feel like you guys are in as well.
AlfredoBrown:We're going to be back again next week, next Wednesday, again, giving you guys our reaction and review to episode four of Alien Earth. As always, I wanna thank everybody for watching or listening all the way through for myself, for Jag, for Sam, for Koff. We'll see you next time. Adios. Today on an all new episode of Unbinged, we're giving you our review and breakdown of Alien Earth episode three.
AlfredoBrown:We're gonna be talking about what Morrow is planning here with the Lost Boys because he asked that question, when is a fuck? I forgot the question. When is a fuck allowed? When
Jagger May:is a machine not a machine?
AlfredoBrown:Yeah. There
Jagger May:you go. Is a not a fuck. When
Matthew Kopfhamer:is a handjob? When
AlfredoBrown:is a machine not a machine? Alright. Here we go. Alright. Let's start that again.
AlfredoBrown:That's a I thought I would remember it, I didn't write it. Alright. Here we go.