Today, we're discussing our theories for seven seasons here, episode nine, entitled the after hours. We're gonna be answering the biggest questions like, what is miss Cobell gonna be doing with any mark? Can she be trusted? And we're also gonna discuss the absolute
Vignesh Doraiswamy:creep
Alfredo Brown:that is Jame Egan, what he could be up to with Helena, Helly. Doesn't really matter at this point. And did we really just say goodbye to four major characters in the series? Also, it's time for Drummond to devour Feculence on an all new episode of Unbending.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:The following video contains spoilers for severance season two episode eight and everything that came before it. This is not a reaction podcast that the slide says. This is now a theory podcast. That's who we are. So your discretion is advised.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Seriously, though, probably gonna spoil the crap out of
Alfredo Brown:this. Vig, I do like that you made sure to to let everyone know what our identity is. We are a theory
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah, man.
Alfredo Brown:Podcast for for this For this show. Yeah. It just works it's just fun to talk about. And I wanna start off with the biggest question marks in the show right now is obviously Mark and his Audi, now is Innie, Devin, Cobell, what's going on there? Guys, Vig, let me start with you.
Alfredo Brown:Where do you think we're going with miss Cobell and any Mark? Because that was an incredibly menacing shot to finish everything off. Like, she's just standing there like a Bond villain, fire in the background, like, even looking very welcoming or comforting to this any that's on the outside world who last time when he saw her, it was not a good experience. It seems like she's not even trying to make him comfortable a little bit. We get the she's alive reveal.
Alfredo Brown:To me, that felt poetic. That was the last thing he said in in the the finale of the first season. Where are we going with this?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I have absolutely no idea. We talked about this in the last episode, and I think again, this is why do
Alfredo Brown:I throw it to you every time
Vignesh Doraiswamy:for you to go
Jagger May:I don't know.
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Vignesh Doraiswamy:But we got a couple of possible options. Right? Talked about it in the last episode where we discussed this thing. You got one or two things either or maybe something in the middle. So two things.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Right? Either she she says we're allies to Mark earlier. She's like, we don't need to fight. We're allies. And maybe she actually is truly Bullshit.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Disenchanted with everything that Lumen is. She's like, screw Lumen. I'm done with Lumen forever. You stole everything from me, my identity, my childhood, my idea. And maybe she truly helps Mark all the way with whatever happens.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But indoctrination from Colts and is hard to lose to, so maybe she waivers. And I actually don't think we get the answer. Here's what I do think. I don't think we get the answer this season. I think the end of the finale probably ends with another stupid cliffhanger, like, maybe Mark seeing Gemma, like, face to face for the first time, it fades to black, and then it goes to season three.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I don't know. But I think that's gonna be the central tension of the next season. We'll see what she actually does.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Good point. I like that. So last episode But
Alfredo Brown:I also hate it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:No. No. No. I felt I just wanna I wanna clarify something. So last episode, I was all in on Cobell being like, fuck Lumen.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'm on the other side now. But this episode, there was a couple of things that she didn't said that make me wonder if she's not setting Mark up for a bigger trap later on. Like, when she gets to the gate and she's being all coy and like, we need Cottage 5. This is one of James or game whatever the hell his name is.
Jagger May:It's James.
Alfredo Brown:James. James.
Matthew Kopfhamer:James. James.
Alfredo Brown:James apostrophe s. Yes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yes. There you go.
Alfredo Brown:James. That is a
Matthew Kopfhamer:weird one. One of his girls. And then she says a couple of, like, code phrases. Like, what was that with, I need to see the lady in in specialties, and then she says, I need a golden thimble. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Marsha White. Two things. Marsha White, thank you. That was the name. Those two things make me wonder make there goes my camera.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Makes me wonder if, Cobell doesn't have ulterior motives and is setting Mark up for something with Lumen to get back in their good graces, especially if she knows that Cold Harbor is that close being finished.
Alfredo Brown:By the way, your camera's framing your your camera's framing you better now, Koff. It looks it looks way better. We should've
Jagger May:done this. I was literally put in the private chat. Was like, it did you a favor, doc. Like, thank
Matthew Kopfhamer:sometimes, I
Jagger May:don't know,
Matthew Kopfhamer:fates thing works out, I guess.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Jack, the word clear out. I know.
Jagger May:Cough, I think you're mostly right. Where we're missing is like you know, it's like, you know, what if there's shit or get off the pot? What if we had option? And I'm going for that third option is that I think she's gonna set up her own cold harbor. She's gathered her notes here.
Jagger May:She's got she's got the main chess piece right now in that little area. So right now, she could show the world or do something. All they need is a fucking cell phone and Twitter or TikTok or something like that, and she can do what whatever they were planning to do. And this is, like, her way to put a coup. Do their plans align to fuck over Lumen?
Jagger May:Correct. But does her plans mean Mark's best interest? And with the with the inclusion of Gemma, I don't think so.
Alfredo Brown:I think he's just a tool right now, a means to an end for her. But what I did find weird and what I I wish we could explore more, but there's nothing really to it, is that how is she not on a sort of, like, no entry security threat list, especially with everything going on with Lumen that I'm like, they didn't even ask her for ID. I guess the guard probably knew her. Like, there
Vignesh Doraiswamy:there was just a lot
Alfredo Brown:of things there. Like, okay. If you do know her, there should also probably be some sort of ordinance that she's not allowed in here at this time because she's a she's a threat. She's gone rogue.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I was waiting to see a shot of the security guard hitting, like, a little red button under the table or something or, like, alert drumming that something's up. But we didn't get that. So And maybe maybe maybe next episode. But at this point, you're right. It's very strange that they would just let her through the gate without more questions or more pushback.
Jagger May:I think it we're seeing corporate bloat here. And, I think what does this the what's the story that does this best is the downfall of the empire if you're deep in the trenches of Star Wars here, where Lumen is so big here. We've all worked for big companies. They get a email about this exec that you don't really give a fuck about. Don't let this person in.
Jagger May:You're clicking on through, man. Like like, why would you give a single fuck like, you know to probably fear Cobell, but whatever unless they gave a call or gave some specific action, I don't believe that the other lower quite literal gatekeepers would know. Moreover, this is so contained as we've seen here even to, like, the corporate level of how contained it is. They don't have time. Right now, Drummond and and Milchick are just trying not to kill themselves and each other to get to Cold Harbor here.
Jagger May:They're down at Cobell, who's out in the wild doing whatever, and then Helly is part time trying to a part time pacifier for Mark down in the Severance Floor. So
Alfredo Brown:Lumen also just kinda seems to be slow with everything even when they were trying to change Milchick's screensaver. And every like, they they just don't really have their foot on the gas here with a lot of things. They're just so focused. They they probably have that tunnel vision on Cold Harbor right now. That's the only thing they give a shit about.
Jagger May:It makes me question the technology here. That's the only thing that ever makes me think multiverse is how, like, this tech works. And then the other thing too, just from, like, another Apple Plus series or a book series, I'm in the middle of the books right now, silo, where they quite literally are hamstrung or handicapped by their own security. Meaning that they use so much old tech here that it is slow for them to get information because they try to keep things so contained.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Well, it's also a commentary on corporations. Like, one of my old bosses had a saying, like, big ships take a long time to turn, and that's what corporations do. So even when they try to implement something, it takes forever to actually roll it out.
Jagger May:Mhmm. I mean, this whole show is been crushed by capitalism in corporate America. We know how this shit works. I mean, it does
Vignesh Doraiswamy:this whole show is right. Like, what we can call it sci fi, a thriller, or whatever you wanna call it. It is also complete corporate workplace satire. Right? Like, we've talked about it so many times.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, even if that's not what the theories are about. But speaking about theories, you brought up all these code words. Right? Marsha White, Golden Thimble, everything. I don't wanna spend too much time on it, but this episode, the after hours, same title of a Twilight Zone episode from, like, the nineteen sixties that was remade in the nineteen eighties.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That really is it has all these terms. Right? But it's basically, like, a lady takes an elevator to the Ninth Floor for a department store that only has eight floors. So there's, like, an elevator sort of motif symbol there. There's, like, the Ninth Floor is called the specialties department.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:The whole thing is noted for, like, some eerie episodes where, like, these these characters are basically kind of get to live as a human for a day, but are otherwise kinda just on this Ninth Floor. But then the next episode right after is called the mighty Casey, and that episode's about a robotic baseball pitcher named Casey who eventually gets a heart. And this is really weird. I again, there's a lot of Twilight Zone references in this show, which I didn't initially catch. One of our comments for the previous thing said, guys, there's much Twilight Zone.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So I actually watched those Twilight Zone episodes, and I'm not gonna say too much because I don't know if this is just an homage or if this is actually predicting what's gonna happen. But maybe look at look into it, guys. Check it out. Folks who are listening to, you know, read about those episodes. Watch them a little bit.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:They're that one with the one with, like, the after hours episode is really, really eerie, and the whole thing is about an exploration of identity. So it's kinda cool.
Jagger May:Vic is that one dude who comes off the bench every now and then and just drops 50. You know?
Alfredo Brown:You're Dion Waiters, Vig. You're Dion Waiters.
Jagger May:You're on
Alfredo Brown:the bench. You come in. You knock down six threes, you just go right back to the bench and just % shooter. Yeah. We we love you.
Jagger May:Yeah. I was gonna say Jamal Murray or fuck it. The the basketball references. But, like or you know, I gonna say the dude the dude from the Olympics who just came in and just, like, bossed out on his one thing on there? Because I didn't know any of that shit.
Jagger May:Like, I've watched the twilight zone, but, like, years ago. And like I said, that's just too intentional. The Casey like, all that shit there, that that's way too intentional. Good nugget, dude. Good nugget.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's more yeah. It's gonna be more
Vignesh Doraiswamy:than good one, Vince. I thought about it a little bit, but then because of that comment, but it didn't come back to my mind. It wasn't even on my notes to talk about for the show until Matt brought up all those weird code words, which could just be an homage to the twilight zone. But I do think it means something more for the direction the show might take.
Alfredo Brown:So what I wanna do is we're gonna keep talking about that a little bit more, and I wanna get specifically more into this whole retreat area, the cabins, and why they were created, and Jamie Egan, and just essentially just being a creep to every single person around him. But before we get to that, what I wanna do is I want to get everyone's opinion here, the people that are watching or listening to us. Okay? We are thinking of doing this same format for the new show, The Studio, coming to Apple TV plus. Right now, the reviews are phenomenal for that.
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Alfredo Brown:We've also got the last of a season two coming and or season two. Lots of great TV coming your way. So let us know down in the comments what shows you are going to be watching. Now, guys, my question here is this retreat area, this cabin area, I wonder why it was originally created. Was this because Jame Egan simply kept getting women pregnant, and this was a way to get them, I don't know, out of there, get them into a quiet place, get the like, because how many women is this?
Alfredo Brown:The way that that Kobel said it, this is one of James. Like, this seems like it is a regular occurrence. And given the the cultish way this show has been treated and the Eagans have been treated, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if we're talking about potentially even hundreds of women like he's a he's a bit older. This could have
Vignesh Doraiswamy:been going on for a
Alfredo Brown:long, long time, potentially even at least twenty years if we if we're to believe what what Bert said earlier or what what was revealed at Bert's dinner. This seems crazy.
Jagger May:Well, it seems like and this is what corporations do is and I'll say I I I don't wanna use that negative. This is what businesses do. If you make something and there is convenience to it
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yep.
Jagger May:And you're going to release that to your employees. You're gonna use it any way you can as a perk before you even give it to the public. You know? This goes down to if you work for a snack company all the way to a tech company. So that that's why that was created because someone's like, man, I wish I had this during, like, childbirth.
Jagger May:Like, say no more. Bloop bloop bloop. You know? Say it once, ma'am? Yeah.
Jagger May:Exactly. You got, like, a spa there. So that's what I think that is. I gotta talk. If anyone has anything else in the spa, let's do it.
Jagger May:I gotta talk about James Jane, man.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. No. That that's what we're getting into. Yeah. But let's get let's get into Jane because this is
Matthew Kopfhamer:only Dude, it's good. Thing I wanna say about the spa is I yeah. No. The only thing I wanna say about the spa is I think it was already like a birthing spa pre severance, and they just added severance to it.
Jagger May:A special one.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'm not
Jagger May:sure they owned it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I don't think it's every cabin. I think it's, like, Cabin 5, Cabin 9, whatever.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And very specifically, if you're in the know, you get that cabin. Otherwise, it's just a regular birthing retreat. Because it's very much in the wheelhouse of Lumen to be in the wellness space.
Jagger May:Yes. Yeah. That's what like the because that's our whole thing. Right? You know, that like, we heard Mark saying on the phone that we get that to the outer world, they're like Burt's Bees mixed with fucking Pfizer, which ironically Burt's Bees is owned by Clorox.
Jagger May:So write that down. So like, I think exactly. So like, that's what that's what I gathered is they had that, and they tacked it on. And especially being wellness, this gives people like Jame and whatever that fuckwad is down there Doctor Mauer. Who's watching yeah.
Jagger May:Doctor Mauer. Mauer. It get it gives weird people
Matthew Kopfhamer:Op one and Op two.
Jagger May:Yeah. It gives them that chance to be fucking weird. That's how cults start. How many cults have started from fucking yoga? You know?
Jagger May:And and now we have this. We like, Lumen is genius because any cult sector, they've done it, whether it's corporate cult, religious cult, wellness cult. Like, what are we missing, guys? Like, I'm on the cults here. Like, are they sacrificing babies?
Jagger May:Do they got a satanic one too? Is there, like, a satanic division?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Well, if you go by that painting that Dylan silhouetted, maybe.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That's perfect, by way.
Alfredo Brown:Shot of him was perfect as Dylan g was waiting for the elevator just sitting there with Keir's hand just resting right above the head.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Mhmm. Amazing. In his hand, and they, like, held a Perfect shot. Worth going back and, like, pause that Talking
Matthew Kopfhamer:about symbology, I know we're jumping a little bit, but when miss Wong is forced by Milchick to smash her cure, like, toy with the head of Jane Egan, how much more on the nail can we get with the current generation or the future generation and the current CEO is trying to erase or overtake the former founder, you know, Keer? So is it a bastardization of Keir's vision that Jame is is going forward with severance, or is he just trying to outstep his former ancestor?
Jagger May:Do you think they're using severance, some of these weird dudes, as like a roofie?
Alfredo Brown:I sure. I would not I I wouldn't be surprised.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Mauer, for sure, is like that's the first thing he thought to do with it.
Jagger May:Yeah. Like, there's, like, oh, the applications for this.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You remember nothing you say.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Let's I mean, let's
Alfredo Brown:let's talk about this right now where Jamie shows up with Helly, and who who knows what kind of weird stuff that he has been into. The thing that, like, got me just so uncomfortable right out of the gate is, one, the breakfast that Helly's eating where it's just the the the boiled egg, and then it's sliced into so many different things. And then she's only eating the egg whites. And I had so many questions here because one, first of all, the way that James just says, I wish you'd take them raw. The biggest fucking pause ever.
Alfredo Brown:Okay? That's absolutely insane to say. Not a normal thing to say. To say take it raw instead of eat the eggs raw is absolutely weird. It makes it feel like she is property, like a vessel, something that he's just She is.
Alfredo Brown:I I I can't to them. Potentially getting that. Like, it it really it really draws that dividing line that this is not his daughter. This is just a thing for him to control. And it makes me wonder, like, where do we get to here?
Alfredo Brown:There's there's starting to be blurred lines of, like, Jame is a sexual predator. The Eagans seem to just be sexual predators as a whole. And the way he talks and treats his daughter, and now she is severed, and he is on the severed floor with Helly. I don't wanna say it out loud, but I think there's room for potential weirdness there.
Jagger May:I Yeah. Yeah, dude. I mean, all of it. If anything, to me, I feel like we got a big a big basket of what the fuck. Yes.
Jagger May:Huge. Huge basket.
Alfredo Brown:Chocolate turtles and a big old box of what the fuck right next
Vignesh Doraiswamy:to it.
Jagger May:And the only thing is, like, what is it in there? Where are the turtles? You know? Like, that's the only thing. Like like, you're being weird.
Jagger May:I just need to figure out, like, what maybe all of it because it's like you said, take them take them raw. Like, I watched this episode twice, and it was uncomfortable two different ways because, like, it and it's crazy how maybe I had an even more innocent perspective of it because I thought it was him being like that judgmental mother where it's just like, I got an a minus. He's like, I wish you would get an a. Like, being so healthy that you would eat a boiled egg that's cut up on your weird sacrifice fucking plate, and you're like, well, you're still not that pure. You know, you cooked your eggs.
Jagger May:I didn't even think. Like, well, maybe Halaire's like, what that scene
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. Go ahead, Matt.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Sorry. Was gonna say what that scene immediately made me think of when he's like, I wish you would take it raw. This is immediately after both Helly and Helena slept with Mark, like, with, you know, on assumingly unprotected sex. So is this Jane being like, I know what you did and is trying to, like, be real fucking weird about how he reveals that, or is this just coincidental? Like, I immediately was like, does he know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:And this is how him telling especially with the end scene where he's like, you lied to me or when he or
Jagger May:you tricked You
Vignesh Doraiswamy:tricked me, my helly.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So I wonder if that's him being like, you were out impure because she soil herself with Mark. That's how I
Jagger May:would And I
Vignesh Doraiswamy:think think the Lumen people know. Right? Because our They have to. Milchick Milchick already tells him. Milchick knows.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:They have cameras everywhere. They know about both. I don't think, like Yeah. I didn't think about it that way, Matt. I don't think that if he needed to let her know that he knows that's not the way she's she she knows.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, Helena knows. I think the you tricked me, my Helly. This is the first time he probably is seeing Helly since he saw her at the end of season one, maybe. Right? Like, where he's seeing the any, and maybe that's all this is about.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I I wasn't reading too much into that. It was just weird, though, for sure. All of this has, like, just been so weird. A giant Mhmm. WTF box as as Jagger likes
Jagger May:to say. I wanna I wanna lean into the the theory that they're they really are all about the innies. They wanna wash away the outside world. Because, like, I think he would be the to your point, Matt, I think he would just call, like, a fetid Muppet or whatever, like, whore is in Lumen language because you know how specific they are. Scrumpto.
Jagger May:Yeah. But the way he's so gentle with the any heli, that's what I'm saying. I think all of them are severed at some point. You You really gotta think that all of them are severed, it's just when they use it. Maybe not Wong, maybe not Cobell, maybe not Milchick, but at least those above people.
Jagger May:And he thinks of Helly as the pure washed and cured blood version, and then Helena is, like, the daughter that went to college and has been tainted by humanity. Because it's like, am I making sense there?
Alfredo Brown:I mean, potentially. Because I I still I still sit here and I say, are we going we've gotten a payoff for pretty much everything in the intro. You know, the the animated intro that we have except for the little baby Kira, and maybe that's just left for more interpretation. I the way he's talking about the her food habits and and her, like, tricking him and everything, the way he kinda looks at her is almost this property or vessel. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe she is intended to be the the carrier for a baby cure or or or something.
Alfredo Brown:Like, Jack, you and I were even saying before the show that it it feels very within the realm of Jame Egan to be, like, let's keep this all in the family. And he's even trying to impregnate his own daughter. There. I finally said it. But I
Jagger May:wanna keep it pure.
Alfredo Brown:That's a level of weirdness that
Vignesh Doraiswamy:is not unheard of in cults and, like, royal family. Rich people? Man, weird.
Jagger May:Rich people? Yeah. Hey.
Matthew Kopfhamer:If it's good enough for the Targaryens, then it's good enough for us, I
Vignesh Doraiswamy:guess.
Alfredo Brown:And they're not just rich. They are fucking rich. That like, everything they have is insane.
Jagger May:They own talents. Sorry for anyone in The UK watching, but look at your royals. So, like, the fact that they would do that to themselves, you know, like like, you know, it wouldn't surprise me I don't know, man. Like, they already have so many ancient and what I think is what what word is it? Pagan or backwater beliefs Mhmm.
Jagger May:Because they're so religious that I think that going back to incest to them is just like, we're gonna go back to when we were pure as people. You know? It's pretty gross.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What's your saying is the The Eagans or the McPoyles of this show?
Jagger May:Yes. Actually, yes. Yes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:The the girls
Jagger May:grew up with money. Yeah. They yeah. Fuck you.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That's a
Alfredo Brown:really good Always Sunny reference.
Jagger May:Yeah. That's the perfect pull, man. That that's the perfect pull.
Alfredo Brown:So this this whole, like, intro scene with with Helena and James and everything that we're seeing with not only just her eating, but then they do that pan out where you then see that there is a Lumen Water tower.
Jagger May:Mhmm.
Alfredo Brown:And this we always say this. This show doesn't do anything by accident. Everything is intentional. And so to focus on what she's eating and then to zoom out and focus on a water tower. I know that water towers don't directly have anything to do with drinking water, but it's still a supply of water.
Alfredo Brown:And so it makes me ask this question is like, where does Lumen's reach end? Like, is it not just tech and new and wellness and all these different products they have? But we've already seen they're putting their own snacks in the Lumen office that they're creating. Are they going to be creating and dispersing all of the food, all of the water? To what level are they already controlling that?
Alfredo Brown:And and then I I
Matthew Kopfhamer:wrote a corny joke here.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Is it I mean Mind control.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:The town, province, area, whatever is called Keyera. Right? Like, where
Alfredo Brown:do know it's all them?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:North Korea. They do medicine. We know that they North Korea.
Alfredo Brown:Okay. I wrote that down. I I really I really wanted to say that one. I really wanted to say it. North Korea.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I don't know. I you know, this is a bit of an aside, another tangent here. I'm not convinced that it's always been a drop of water.
Alfredo Brown:Kyrgyong Un still thinks it's drop of blood.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. I think it's a drop of blood. Or oh, Jack, maybe.
Alfredo Brown:Semen. That's gross.
Jagger May:I don't know. But yes. I'm I'm sorry, guys. That I didn't even Molly fluids. Like,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:just think you're wrong because semen is never shown as a drop like that. It has a very specific shape.
Matthew Kopfhamer:The tail has a tail.
Alfredo Brown:Vague. Noted semen expert. Got it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. He's a doctor.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Simple. I'm just I'm just leaning into the the symbolism here. So I I I think it's either water or bloodstone. We'll figure out why.
Alfredo Brown:Do we Blood, water,
Matthew Kopfhamer:sleep, and water.
Jagger May:Where are we at on the the meal chick the meal chick crash out meter? Do you think he's going Oh, he told his boss. Or do you think he's yeah. I know. Like, but he almost seems he was cruel to miss Wong.
Jagger May:He was being cruel. Did miss Wong deserve it? When you remember that she's a fucking child, maybe not. You know? I
Alfredo Brown:would put his his crash out meter at a nine right now.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Yeah. What was weird about that scene was why did she suddenly have humanity towards Dylan? Like, what was that about?
Jagger May:She watched she watched it. Like, she bit she's been watching him the entire time, and it was just supremely just sad and feeling rejection and that you didn't do enough. And then
Matthew Kopfhamer:So was that her promise?
Jagger May:Yes. Because she just got she just felt that here. Because she's like, I didn't do enough. I can't finish out my month here, and they're gonna move me away from my family. And I don't know what I'm gonna be doing at this other fucking place.
Alfredo Brown:She's at a heightened emotional state for the first time. She has something she cares about. She is out of her comfort zone. So now, those emotions, especially being a teenager, like, there's only so many things that Lumen can really control. She's a teenage girl going through a lot of shit with her hormones and emotions and everything.
Alfredo Brown:Like, it's it's very real.
Jagger May:Do do do think her think there's a lot
Vignesh Doraiswamy:more to this one, though. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Yeah? No.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Go ahead.
Jagger May:Ask, do you think her dad is, like, a a board member? Because he has a whole bust of Eustace Wong. You know? Like, that was, like, a whole thing.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:It could be. I don't know. My my thing with with this whole thing was I agree that
Alfredo Brown:she probably felt a little bad.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But is she feeling bad because she actually feels bad and she watched it happen? Or is it because she's like, I didn't too enough. I don't get to finish my quarter. I wasn't a good employee. I'm being punished.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I just had destroy my toy, make my material sacrifice.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So her empathy might still
Vignesh Doraiswamy:be is being taken to Svalbard? Do y'all know, like, I don't know anything about Svalbard besides that's where they have the global seed vault. Like, if the entire world falls apart, that's where we're gonna rebuild humanity from. And he's like, you're gonna go to Svalbard and do global reforms at the empathy center. And that whole thing was it was very interesting, but very weird.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But I also think, speaking of of Wong and Milchick's, like, meter, when Drummond tells him, dude, those are big words. Just stop. And we get this whole, like, everyone loves the devour Pheckellentine. I think maybe Milcic has some remorse and feels bad because maybe he realizes it wasn't Wong who complained about him. Yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Maybe it was Drummond on the line.
Alfredo Brown:Maybe that's what it comes
Vignesh Doraiswamy:to because because that scene where he's talking to Mark and Mark talks about, like, isn't that what Lumen's about? Work life balance. And you see him turn this, like, one eighty degree turn in the camera and his face, and he stares at an iceberg where, like, maybe, you know, the whole tip of that iceberg sort of symbolism you're talking about. And he was like, maybe and I don't know. Maybe the tip is the any or the Audi or maybe it's just life and that there's so much more to life than work.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:It looks like this man for the first time realizes that work isn't everything because we see him work night. We see him work day. We see him Yes. All we ever see him do is work. He doesn't have a I almost wonder.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. I almost wonder if he realizes that Mark might be reintegrating on that conversation, and he lets it happen. And I have
Jagger May:to go
Vignesh Doraiswamy:back and watch this. Mark really weirdly calls him mister Milchick mister Milchick. Does he do that when he's unsevered too always? I know he does in season one. I gotta go back to how we talked to him season one.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. I think he always has. I've never heard him call him
Vignesh Doraiswamy:stuff. Okay. Yeah. I'm not sure. I I just have to go back to the I almost wonder if he's, like, allowing this to happen.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I don't know. But I thought the scene was really powerful. I thought the filming of that was fantastic. I just the whole thing there. Milchick's heel turn, maybe heel turn.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I I buy him having a heel turn more than I do Kobel, for what it's worth.
Jagger May:I do. Because, like, Kobel's a different heel like, to me, she's an another adversary with her own plot line. She's Darth Maul right now.
Matthew Kopfhamer:She's off her revenge. Yeah. Nice.
Jagger May:Yeah. See, you guys get it. Yeah. That's what she's
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But she's under the post Phantom. Right, Darth
Matthew Kopfhamer:Maul. Yeah.
Jagger May:Yeah. If you guys have seen anything She's
Matthew Kopfhamer:a Knoll baby.
Jagger May:That one. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I wanna bounce off a hood rat theory that has nothing to do with anything.
Alfredo Brown:Yes. Everyone fold your hands, cross your feet, let's go. Hood rat corner starts now.
Jagger May:You could fight. The whole time, I was like, I know Milchick could fuck up Drummond. Oh. Drummond Drummond's a soft little boy with that little belly, can't boo. I just
Alfredo Brown:I was I was waiting for a right hook to just send him over that that that railing there.
Jagger May:Yeah. Drummond uses that big boy belly shit to just, like, apologize. And as soon as, like, Seth stepped up to him, what did he do? Fuck off.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Small.
Jagger May:He looks small. Exactly. It's like, you you know Drummond can't really fight. Yeah. Vote in the comments.
Jagger May:Can Drummond fight? I say no.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So No. No.
Alfredo Brown:No. And, honestly, Drummond's become Drummond's become the perfect the perfect villain for this season, and we were wondering why he was here. And I I think the connection with Drummond, Jame, everything that really just seems like they're trying to Lumen's trying to keep everything under control, and I think that was the very obvious theme of this show, and they simply fucking can't. And no matter how hard they are trying to make it, this perfect utopian society or perfect life for everyone, everyone that works there is fucking miserable. And I mean everyone from top to bottom.
Alfredo Brown:Helen and Yeah. Wong, Natalie. Yeah. Every single person is miserable. Even to the point where Jayme himself is miserable because he doesn't get what he wants.
Alfredo Brown:And Drummond is miserable because all he can do is fucking nothing. Like, he can't. And and
Jagger May:blame and blame his Exactly.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Exactly. And so,
Matthew Kopfhamer:like company's history, and they could do nothing but stand by.
Alfredo Brown:And he has dick of power. Like, there's nothing. They're just Lumen is falling apart. Lumen, I think, is even closer to the crash out than Milkshake.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:They probably are, but doctor Mauer, that man seems like he's he's got a little
Alfredo Brown:dick guy too.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Band aid.
Alfredo Brown:Dickless man. Hate him, honestly
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fuck him.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:He seems he seems a little happy with all this nonsense.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He needs to take another chair to
Jagger May:the head. It means that that Gemma doesn't die because we could confirm that Mark is refining her. Right? Do you think that he's deciding what rooms that she goes in by, like, where he's picking shit out? Does that you know?
Jagger May:Because he has the different files and whatnot. Granted, he went through the Cold Harbor file, she's never went into that door. Mhmm. So they
Alfredo Brown:don't but they're not they're not dozens.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Go yeah. She doesn't go
Alfredo Brown:into room until the file is complete. So, like, she didn't go to
Matthew Kopfhamer:Granville until he was done with that file, etcetera.
Alfredo Brown:Got it. And I think what what makes him so important to that is that there seems to be some sort of connection between Mark and the numbers that represent Gemma's exactly. It's it's soulmates. It's they're they're tethered. Right?
Alfredo Brown:And he he is able to pick up on the numbers that either bother or elate Gemma in in whatever way it is. And when we say, yeah, and when we say that Gemma is going to die in Cold Harbor, I mean, I that was kinda my theory that that was their their code word for everything. Because what was the the name of the town that Cobell was that last episode?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Salt's Neck.
Alfredo Brown:Salt's Neck. Salt's is a which is a literal Cold Harbor, and that town is fucking dead, but not really dead. And I think that's what we still lean into this year, where Cold Harbor is going to be killing one version of Gemma, potentially outie Gemma.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Or outie.
Alfredo Brown:Which really all we're going to see is these remaining various innies. And I think that is the final test that proves, okay, our severance allows for someone to even bypass death. Like, we can kill we can actually kill this Gemma, revive her, and she's going to come back as her innie self. And that consciousness of Audi Gemma is done. Because that seems like that's their ultimate goal there at Lumen is to have immortality, the the everlasting life that that James and and the the Eagan family so desperately desires.
Jagger May:We're gonna end death, and everyone will be happy as long as you suck at the cock of Jane. Like, don't
Alfredo Brown:know what Jesus Christ.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh my god.
Jagger May:That's what that's what these fuckers are, Yeah. Sorry, guys. You're thirty six six.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So I mean, if we if we think about it, though, we go back to some of our discussions for the the Gemma episode. Was that episode seven? I think we talked about a lot of these theories, and I it very well could be any number of these things. I still don't know, and I still don't think we get an answer. We know there's a season three.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think they're gonna drag us
Jagger May:Big, I need
Alfredo Brown:you to stand on business, bro. I need you to stand on business. Stop riding the fence.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Say with your chest. That's what they're doing, man. I'll say with my chest. We are not getting any realistic answers in this seventy five minute finale.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. But no one clicks on this because it says nonrealistic answers for season two episode nine.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Talk about yeah. But I think we could talk about, like, the reasons. Right? I think the people listen to us whoever listen to us because we talked about the the things that pointed towards x y z theory being right or wrong or not. So I just don't think we're getting any of I really wanna know the whole cure baby from the intro thing that you brought up because we finally figure out why the entire severance intro, like, ends with Cobell's head.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Right? She created severance. That makes sense. But we still don't know this baby cure thing. And we're talking about immortality, and I think that is one of the biggest things that or at least reincarnation.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:If we talk about Shikai Bardo, right, that's a a Buddhist term, and it talks about the the wheel of life. Right? Life, death, reincarnation. So I don't think you actually die. You're just reincarnating.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So I don't I think immortality via reincarnation, whether that's
Alfredo Brown:Yes.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:The chip itself and memories, I think that's where they're going with all of this. It's just man, it's there's so much potential. I just am bummed because I'm, like, now realizing we have one episode left, and it might be the longest episode we've had. I don't think we're gonna get that.
Alfredo Brown:Seventy four minutes?
Jagger May:We're gonna
Vignesh Doraiswamy:have to wait another two yeah. Seventy four, seventy five. We gotta wait another two, three years. Speaking of Milchick, can I just say one thing about that line? He says, to put it monosyllabically today, because I'm a I'm a nerd.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Monosyllabically. Well, not just at
Alfredo Brown:every single word
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of that sentence.
Alfredo Brown:Every single word of that
Vignesh Doraiswamy:sentence, it was something like, you know, it's not my fault what Mark does when not at work to the outside when not at work. It's yours. Every single thing was a single syllable, and the amount of intelligence you need to have to pull that off is just mind boggling
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh, smart as just
Vignesh Doraiswamy:makes me think there is something way more about Milschick that we're going to get.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He's a representation of wasted potential. Like, he's stuck as a middle manager for sure.
Alfredo Brown:Clipped his wings.
Jagger May:More than
Matthew Kopfhamer:that. Yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:For sure.
Jagger May:Exactly. Milchick is my favorite character because I just feel for him. I'm just not I would never get caught in that shit like he did. So that's just like I wouldn't let that shit happen to me, though. You know?
Jagger May:That's not
Alfredo Brown:You would
Vignesh Doraiswamy:actually drop on Sherman. He's
Jagger May:so fucking what do we gotta talk about? We haven't even hit about this is Irving and Bert. We gotta we gotta
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh, yeah. We Ward Dillon and Gretchen.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. We're we're getting there.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Because those characters.
Jagger May:Do you guys to me and I'm thinking as a writer, and fuck you guys. Jack, if you write stuff I do write, assholes. I went to college for it. I do think that what they're doing is setting aside characters to where we have a lot of strings going on, and I could just put these chess pieces away to where this could be kind of done, or I could bring them back later. Because I feel like we're only gonna get one more season, and I think it that's perfect from from here on now.
Jagger May:Because it's like, is Dylan actually done here? Cold Harbor's at, like, 4%. So, like, really, they just need to get Mark and, like, get in the fucking chair and blah blah blah with the numbers. You know? Like, I I feel like they'll be down at that point here.
Jagger May:Where do we think these characters are going?
Alfredo Brown:I'm still of the mindset that Irving only ever showed up to Lumen in the first place with an agenda to try to take down Lumen. And I think that he
Matthew Kopfhamer:was a sorry.
Alfredo Brown:Like like a corporate spy from from somewhere else?
Matthew Kopfhamer:He was corporate spy, do you think he was a journalist? Because the way he wrote about, like, Bert, especially his little notebook, I was leaning more towards journalist. Ist. Because originally, corporate spy was what I thought, especially from their competitors.
Alfredo Brown:Could have been privately contracted by someone because he was former military intelligence. You know? I think that for now, he's sort of letting his feelings for Bert just get him out of the way right now. He probably needs to go do a reset of, like, I'm I'm in too deep. I'm too close.
Alfredo Brown:But he's also a loose end for Lumen, and that just, like, that just can't exist. Exactly. Can't exist. So he's either going to have issues wherever he goes, or he's gonna end up coming back. I don't think that that character
Vignesh Doraiswamy:is up. Coming back, man. Here I I got some theories here, first off. I have, like, some mister and missus Smith stuff feelings going on here. I do not think that Burr is as innocent as he said.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That man is sitting in bed.
Jagger May:He's not innocent. No.
Alfredo Brown:No. Yeah. He said that he only wanted to be severed so that he could feel more innocent. He knows
Vignesh Doraiswamy:he's a
Jagger May:fucking ass.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He knows
Alfredo Brown:he's not a sucker
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of he doesn't need a brainer. He like Yeah. So he he's out there saying, I didn't do anything. I just drove people. I don't know what happened after.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I'm saying that part I don't buy for a second. This man is sitting in his house Sure. Going through his stuff. I'm almost wondering, at the very beginning, Helena says, we have a plan or we're taking care of mister Bailiff. I honestly, dude, he is I think Bert is the goon.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think Bert is Certified fuck.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Bert is Bert is the wolf.
Jagger May:I think
Vignesh Doraiswamy:he was supposed to take him out kill him. Yeah. I think he's supposed to take him out and kill him, but he can't because he's still I don't think the man was ever severed. Or maybe he was, but either way, I think he actually fell in love with Irving down there and he because he says this one line when he talks about the goon. He says, we never used to talk like that.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:And then he quickly changes. He's like, that's not a part of Lumen's language. You know, I think I think he's referring to his time down there with O and D and his relationship with Irving. I think he was supposed to kill him, and he could not take care of him. And so he lets him go.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:He says, you can never return to Kira. This is a one way ticket. You see, it's a one way nonrefundable ticket where they pull the stock out of, and sends him out. The man is coming back. I agree.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Irving has some sort of agenda. The man is way too smart. Even a severed version of him was, like, very quick to turn on turn on movement. I think there's something more here. I love it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think putting him away for a little bit so that we have the major pieces for the finale is a smart move and it's excellent writing. But excellent writing has great payoff. I think there's an Irving payoff to come. I just don't know if we see it this season or next. I think actually not having him in the finale at all makes a lot of sense.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think he comes back in season three. But I think he's coming back, and I think Bert g is a fuck.
Jagger May:No. And and I think I think he's a fucking love. Like, for sure. Like, confirmed, certified, fucked. Because I told my fiance the same thing.
Jagger May:I was like, I don't think Bert was ever severed. And right away, obviously, they have personality tests. They got everything on these people. And they sit Bert down there to, like, go watch his innie. Go watch both sides of them.
Jagger May:And he was straight up a honey dick the entire time. The entire time he was like this. And as much as Irving was watching them, they were watching him. And like you said, he he fell in love. And I think you saw how fucked up Lord Denethor was, his Fields
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fields.
Jagger May:Was about it, because he even knows. He's just like, you were in love with him for real. You know? It's not like Fields could probably go yeah. And it's not like he, like, he can't even get a divorce from him because he's too deep, and he knows too much, and they're probably just gonna kill him.
Jagger May:So I I completely agree. Dylan, I feel like could be done. Like, what are we gonna do with him? Because, like, what kinda was he for, like, you know, like, moving the plot? You know?
Alfredo Brown:I I think I I feel like they had to sort of ask these characters to clear out so that the story itself can ISO on Mark The fuck. Cobell, Gemma, Helena, Jame. Because now we're also we're we're essentially introducing Jame into the fold, and he's almost never around. And so now you have to kinda ask these other characters to go sit on the bench for a little bit while we bring in some bigger characters that we really have to introduce a lot. Like, same thing with miss Wong, all all these characters.
Alfredo Brown:This is I think there's going to be something whatever happens with this finale. I think it's going to be big enough that it's going to end up drawing Dylan and Irving back to Lumen in the following season, but I don't think that's going to happen here in the finale. I think whatever happens could have a ripple effect that makes them need to come back for some reason.
Jagger May:Mhmm.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So one one theory I have about the Dylan and Gretchen storyline is maybe not the finale, but maybe next season, either they separate or get a divorce, and it forces Gretchen to possibly get severed herself and take that job that Dylan had to support the family. As that could be something wildly not what they're doing, but I could see possibly introducing, especially an actress as good that portrays Gretchen is, it feels wrong to have this be the end of that story. So I want more
Vignesh Doraiswamy:from her.
Alfredo Brown:Think if anything, she goes back to Lumen to try to get more of this. Like, she's had the taste of what the any is. I don't think she necessarily wants to become an any. I I I wonder if there's just more
Matthew Kopfhamer:she's not gonna be able to get Dylan to go back. If he is if his pouty is true, like
Alfredo Brown:We don't know. We don't know. I have to beat on myself. Yeah. We don't know.
Alfredo Brown:Like, she's got a job. Like, I can't imagine her being like, ah, let me just fuck off with my profe no. I know. But I can't imagine her just being like, okay. Well, I've gotta stop my profession and go work for this company now that gave us such complications.
Alfredo Brown:If
Matthew Kopfhamer:they offer 6 figures, you do.
Alfredo Brown:It would no. What I could see being more realistic is that she is so disappointed with her life. Not that she needs to support the kids because she has a job. It could be that she is so down on her luck and disappointed with her life and her divorce with Dylan that she ends up becoming a severed employee at Lumen because she just doesn't wanna think about it. And then we get a whole thing where Dylan comes back and their their innies end up falling in love or whatever.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And then it's gonna turn
Jagger May:out I mean,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I have some thoughts about the whole Dylan Gretchen thing. Obviously, very heartbreaking to see. Right? The whole thing is really really, like, all tragic. You see that Dylan has this total experience of maybe thousands of hours.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, everybody remembers their first crush or breakup, and and there's this thing in the ADHD world that I don't think it's like an official medical diagnosis, but I've seen people talk about, like, rejection sensitive dysphoria. And you could see that he's already coded ADHD as a character. We talked about that previously. You see how heartbreaking this is for him and how difficult it is for him. And, you know, that first breakup for a lot of people, you feel like the world is ending, and then you just kinda like, that's it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I'll never find love again. And and you see him do all of this. So he submits us this resignation form, which we know exists, but has to be approved. Right? Like, the Audi can send a response.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:So we don't know what Audi response is gonna happen, but it was interesting that the first response for both the innie and the Audi in this whole Gretchen situation. One feels like he's lost his love and the other who's like, you cheated on me with me is to quit. So he might actually let it happen. But this is me this is I'm getting to the theory part. I'm getting really crazy here, but different elevators have different dings in this show.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:And so now I, like, pause, go back, listen, and try to, like I've recorded some of these dings because we're we're making a show. The ding around that time doesn't sound like the typical one. I don't know if Dylan's elevator is taking him out of the severed floor. Is that man going to the testing floor? Are they wiping him to recreate him with a new innie, which we know you can have multiple versions of innie's?
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think Oh. The story progresses with Dylan because I think we have a new
Alfredo Brown:That's a phenomenal theory.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I think there's a new Dylan Innie that's in play that doesn't know about the Gretchen experience because they gotta keep this going, man. This that's where I see this is going. Like, Dylan is a a loose end of sorts, and I think this is how you roll back in.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Especially with how Milchick said, I sense, like, ingratitude. So maybe that could be, like, that's the code for, okay, time to reset.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:It may it's a it's a theory. Do you buy it? Do you buy that maybe he's going to this testing floor?
Jagger May:I I I mean, yeah, dude. Like, I yeah. Like, I I I don't out of all the theories, let's put, to to me, that's not any weaker than any other ones that we have. Because like you said, like, let's put it this way. Like, Dylan's a loose end too.
Jagger May:Like, you know, they are about they got Bert G out there, you know, doing some goon shit for him, so I'm sure they got another one out there ready for it. So wiping him, we don't even know if they could alter memories or something like that. Put a little bit of Dylan in there to where he knows Mark, but, like, maybe take out some of the wifey shit, you know? Doesn't surprise me at all. But I feel like, to get a little personal, I always relate to Dylan on this, just like the ADHD front, because like, that's what I am.
Jagger May:I'm a rage quitter, and I gotta stop myself sometimes. It's like, fuck this, I'm going home. And that's funny that you said that because that's the whole nature versus nurture thing. That's Dylan through and through. He's like, this is hard.
Jagger May:I'm quitting. And I don't like this and uncomfortable. So it's interesting to see that happen.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:And we have a lot of stuff that talks about that, right? He says, well, if the innies and outies are all that different, how come no one could tell? And she's like, well, Irving could tell. And he tells Helly, even Mark, who's in love with you, couldn't tell. And so That's just I think the nature nurtured the innies and the outies essentially being the same person.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Those themes are played really, really well here. And it just it's nice to see that both or maybe not nice. It's just it's interesting to see that both the Indy and the Audi had the exact same rage quit response because maybe fundamentally, you really are the same person.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Speaking of being the same person, when do we think the reintegration is gonna be finished for Mark?
Jagger May:Next episode. Yeah. Okay.
Alfredo Brown:If it it feels like that would make the most sense to have the reintegration finished next episode, And that's either also when he finally sees Gemma again or he's about to. Like, it could be we could get one of those things where the reintegration finishes, and he's about to hop on that elevator, and that's it. The door is closed in the elevator, and that Fade to Black credits. We'll see you in
Vignesh Doraiswamy:season three. Last season ends with she's alive. This season ends with you're alive and Fade to Black, except maybe she says it. These these guys do this sort of thing all the time. Right?
Alfredo Brown:Yes. Oh, that'd be so good. That'd it's actually doors open. It's Gemma or he or he gets to Gemma's room. Yes.
Alfredo Brown:Oh. Oh, Viggy daddy. Good good call.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:We'll see if we we'll see if we're right. We'll see if we're right.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Well, boys, this is a it's a good penultimate episode. It's setting up this finale that's going to be, over seventy minutes. It's gonna be probably the longest episode of the season, I believe, if if I'm not correct. So we've got a really good finale.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Oh, of the show. Okay. So we've got a really good finale coming up for Severance season two. And, like we said before, what we want is we want your opinion on shows that we should be talking about next with Severance ending, Invincible just ended.
Alfredo Brown:We're already looking at potentially talking about the new show, the studio on Apple TV plus by the news that Ted Lasso is gonna be back. That might be a fun one for us to do season four. Currently, we're talking about Daredevil born again, Severance season two, like I mentioned, and the White Lotus season three. And you can always find us right here on YouTube. So if you're watching, give this video a quick like and comment down below with your thoughts on severance and your opinion as to what we should be talking about next.
Alfredo Brown:And, of course, as always, if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, leave a five star review. It helps us so much. Well, for myself, for Vig, for Koff, for Jagger, for all
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of us, we wanna
Alfredo Brown:thank you guys for watching and listening all the way through. We'll see you next time. Adios.
