On today's episode of unbinged, we are talking about daredevil born again episode eight. We're gonna talk about that crazy ending. Matt just totally unraveling throughout this episode. Fisk and Vanessa kinda getting off on doing bad things together. They just wanna do bad things with their friends.
Alfredo Brown:That's it. And ask the question, did this penultimate episode do enough to set up a strong finale? All that and more on our own episode of Unbenched starting now.
Jagger May:This is your one warning that this is a reaction podcast to the show Daredevil. We will spoil this and everything about the MCU.
Alfredo Brown:Welcome in, guys. So, I wanna start this off. Did this penultimate episode do enough to set up a strong finale? Koff, where are you at with this episode?
Matt Kopfhamer:I think it absolutely set up some tantalizing storylines for the finale. I don't know how they're gonna wrap them all up, but I'm here for it. So let's go.
Alfredo Brown:Jack, what about you?
Jagger May:Really? Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of balls in the air. And there some of them that are out there, I don't need they could they could pass the ball to season two. Like and I know we're gonna get a season two at this point, and I'm okay with that.
Jagger May:I'm wondering which one is the big one. You know? Right. Exactly. Like like, where are we at here?
Jagger May:It's just like, what's gonna go on with Bullseye? We got that muse problem going on with city. And I mean the muse problem, mean the vigilante thing. That's a whole thing. There's just a lot of questions.
Jagger May:And it does feel like you're, ground level hero penultimate episode, meaning that a lot of times when you have the Supermans and and these other big ones, they have this one big bad. Superman just like, oh, shit. Darkseid. You know? And then when you got your Batmans and Spidermans, you got, like, six things going on, and you're just like, alright.
Jagger May:What's this big problem I gotta handle? And I'm excited to see what's the big problem in the next one. And if anything, we've got, like, three finales we could have.
Matt Kopfhamer:Absolutely. And that's that's what I was saying is, like, they have so many tantalizing storylines they can go with. I really can't predict which one they're gonna follow. So I'm I'm here to see what they're gonna kick the can down the road for for season two and keep keep those open and how we're gonna, you know, close out this story arc from season one. And I wonder with, again, how much they keep bringing up Foggy if they're doing, you know, that storyline from the comics where he faked his death.
Jagger May:That feels more and more plausible, I think.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah. Like, the way it's becoming such an integral part of the story. Jack, you said they have a bunch of balls in the air. Let's label the let's label our balls.
Alfredo Brown:First ball.
Jagger May:Bullseye. Bullseye.
Matt Kopfhamer:Left. Right. Oh.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Nope. Nope. Dead center, actually.
Jagger May:Yeah. Close. It's like You're doing so good.
Alfredo Brown:Fisk and Vanessa, that's a two for one. Yep. Punisher, I'm very intrigued about that because that's been a whole thing that's been connected to the anti vigilante task force, and we know that there's going to be a punisher special. I'm like, I'm fighting as to what I wanna say because there's been promo stuff out there. But every time I talk about, like, a promo or a teaser, someone's like, ah, you ruined the next episode for me.
Alfredo Brown:And, like, I don't even know what's happening. But it does seem like we're gonna get a lot of these characters all showing up in the finale, even one character that we have not had in a while. So it it seems like we're gonna get a whole bunch of everything. I would say I think the punisher and anti vigilante task force is probably gonna carry over into season two, and the Fisk stuff is gonna carry over into season two. If I had to pick something that I think probably gets a closeout here in season one of daredevil born again, I would think it's bullseye.
Alfredo Brown:And I love what they've done with this character. I wish we had more of him, honestly. Mhmm.
Jagger May:Like, this
Alfredo Brown:could have been, to me, an episode six thing. And Mhmm. You could almost have just skipped the Muse stuff. And that was that was sort of my complaint with Muse because I thought it was such a cool character, and we did really didn't get a lot of it. I I will say, from a penultimate episode perspective, this was my favorite episode of the entire series.
Alfredo Brown:This was so much fun. There was tension from beginning to end. Charlie Cox just unraveling as Matt Murdock was great. Because, like, it's that thing where you're watching TV and you're like, why won't the character just say what I want them to say and do what I want them to do? And finally, he was doing that, and he didn't have to do it as daredevil in the costume.
Alfredo Brown:He didn't throw a punch. He was just doing exactly what we wanted him to do, and there was a real did he not throw a punch? Am I am I throw
Matt Kopfhamer:a punch, but he definitely smashed Bullseye's face on the table three times. So Oh, you're right.
Alfredo Brown:Oh, and okay. Question about that. Do you guys think that was intentional?
Matt Kopfhamer:To let him escape? I don't
Jagger May:Nothing escaped. Don't think I don't think Dexter Ben Poyn Dexter is that cerebral to do that. Like, if it
Alfredo Brown:was No. No. No. Not not not not bullseye. Matt doing
Matt Kopfhamer:it. Matt Murdock.
Alfredo Brown:Because so this is my theory is that bullseye being out of prison helps Matt more than anything right now because
Matt Kopfhamer:Makes Fisk look bad.
Alfredo Brown:Wait. Fisk Fisk well, Fisk looks bad, but also Fisk and Vanessa are gonna be a little nervous too because this was a guy that they can't really control anymore. He's got his own thing going. I think having one more guy out there maybe helps Matt. It almost seemed like he wanted to do it, get him out of gen pop for a little bit, get him into a medical area.
Alfredo Brown:I I'm I have a lot of theories about that. Like, I'm that to me, that's another ball that's up in
Jagger May:the air.
Matt Kopfhamer:Don't think Batman
Jagger May:would do that. Yeah. I don't think Daredevil would do that. Right. Because That's a smart guy.
Matt Kopfhamer:Led to Yes. But he's a good guy. He's too much of a quiet boy. It led to three deaths.
Alfredo Brown:The guy named Daredevil?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yes. It led to three deaths. Daredevil would not do that. He would not allow Bullseye to go on a rampage like that. I I just I see where your thought process is, and I can I can kind of agree, but I don't think Daredevil at the end of day would allow Bullseye who's that dangerous out on purpose?
Alfredo Brown:Then here's my question. Because I'm thinking that because, also, why does Matt jump in front of a bullet for Fisk?
Jagger May:That is what I don't know.
Alfredo Brown:And and so that's where I think it ties in because he has that conversation with Bullseye where Bullseye tells him, good men defend their enemies. There's too many, like, dots that are connecting from that conversation, that instance to the end where I'm just like, no. I I pulled the, like, the wind horse. Now why would he do that? And that's that's that's like, that just had me start Pepe Silvia, like, this whole thing.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah.
Jagger May:But I
Matt Kopfhamer:but I think, honestly, that was just a clever bit of foreshadowing because you know that fucking line has been rattling around Matt's head the entire night. Since he spoke to bullseye, that's been going on. He's been dealing with everything else. And at the moment when he realized what was happening, he made a split decision. And because he is a good guy, even though it was his worst enemy, he still defended him.
Matt Kopfhamer:So I think it really just is clever writing at that point. Don't think it it really needs to be deeper than that.
Jagger May:And and this isn't a flex when I say this to what I took and when you try to relate yourself to a character, like especially like Matt Murdock, where Matt is at mentally is kind of where I am sometimes all the time. Meaning, like, I'm at, like, the the the start where he's interviewing that one dude who's, like, screwing over teachers or whatever, where he's just like, oh my fucking god. Like, this guy's a piece of shit. What are we doing? Like, this is where Matt is the whole time.
Jagger May:And him slamming Bullseye's head in the table, that was just him like, oh, I'm just fucking done with you, and I'm gonna go off. You know? And and it was a gut reaction of him being a little bit over the edge. And then and then, like you said, Koff, him hearing Ben's Ben's words in his head, it's like, you're gonna protect your enemies. That just kinda just put him a little bit further in there, and he carried that into whatever the the black and white ball, whatever the gala fundraiser that is.
Jagger May:And that pushed him to be like, alright. I need to shape up. My my girlfriend's pissed off at me. You know? It's just a lot of things happen at one time.
Jagger May:He took the bullet
Matt Kopfhamer:for sympathy. That's it. That's the
Alfredo Brown:only reason.
Jagger May:He's just like he's like, brownie points. She can't be mad at me now. Out of the knockouts. I get it.
Jagger May:He who he who was without
Alfredo Brown:sin cast the first stone, because I know every single one of us have done something like that. It's like big daddy when you're trying to cheer up the kid and he jumps in front of the car to get hit. Like, that's every single man has done that at some point for for wife, girlfriend, significant other.
Jagger May:Absolutely. I understand you, Matt Burdock. That was the
Jagger May:most relatable scene I've ever seen. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Tondo poop. It wasn't
Jagger May:for Fisk at all. No.
Alfredo Brown:I I will say this. I still think there's something to it, and I and I hope there is. Because to me, I think there's more payoff to it in the in the following episode. If there is, it tells me that there is some sort of master plan for Matt that there is that duality of him being the angry devil, but also the smart lawyer. And I think that's that's the character of Matt Murdock is having that duality.
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Alfredo Brown:I don't know about you guys, but I was sitting there on the edge of my seat thinking, who is he going to shoot? Is he shooting Matt? Is he shooting Kingpin? Is he shooting Vanessa? And, also, that's where we find out that Vanessa was the one who called the hit on Foggy.
Alfredo Brown:And, see, this is where I I start to think, like, the writing, at least for these episodes where it got very cohesive, it starts to make me wonder. Vanessa sets up Luca to be killed by by Buck when he goes and does the hit on Kingpin because we got that confirmation. What else might have been set up here by by Vanessa for Bullseye to maybe get himself into a bad situation? Like, I think there's enough strings here that are tied to different areas.
Jagger May:Yeah. And I think I'm glad you brought that up. I wanna give props to this because I wanted to put Vanessa into the what are we doing category.
Alfredo Brown:Mhmm.
Jagger May:I I just don't fucking care about any of this. And I felt like that little detail made everything matter. You know? Because, like, I feel like they've been glazing Vanessa. They're like, wow, you are the Don.
Jagger May:You're Don fucking Corleone, Vanessa.
Alfredo Brown:They were telling us, not showing us.
Jagger May:They were showing us. Exactly. Yeah. They were telling us that. Exactly.
Jagger May:Yeah. And now we're getting to the point where she's just like, oh, baby, I have to tell you something where, like, you know, like, she wanted to eliminate Matt Murdock off the board, and she did it because for her, you know, she's kinda talking shit to Wilson. She's like, you ain't strong. You know, you kinda you kinda being a little bitch right now. She took him off the board.
Jagger May:Yeah. She took him off the board, but she doesn't know Matt intimately like Fist does. And she doesn't know kind of or Ben Benjamin Poindexter. She doesn't really know them intimately. So she doesn't really know what she set loose in motion.
Jagger May:And now she's like, oh, please don't check the bank statements, you know, type thing. You know?
Matt Kopfhamer:Though I will give her credit. Like, there was only a brief hesitation before she popped out on, what, four times in the chest and then once in the head? Like, alright. Vanessa's a real player
Alfredo Brown:now.
Jagger May:Like I
Alfredo Brown:called that shit. This is how they get off. This is them just Dutch ruddering each other but with guns. Like, they they're just super into that. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Sorry, cough. Good visualization there.
Jagger May:He's right, though. And and Vanessa was just like, thank god. That evil fuck that I fell in love was still in there somewhere.
Alfredo Brown:Like, that was it really?
Jagger May:It kinda felt like maybe
Alfredo Brown:she was testing him.
Jagger May:That that's what
Alfredo Brown:I'm thing of please don't kill him. Please don't kill him. And he's like Vanessa, look what I'm doing. Hold it down here for you.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Ugh. I'm glad we got that payoff. But I think my my only complaint is that it took so long, not for payoff, but for story to feel cohesive, for me to care about characters that have been in this. Like, for example, I still don't care about Cherry and Kirsten. And and this episode felt like they really tried to focus on them and give them some weight in Matt's story, and I was just like, you ain't Foggy.
Alfredo Brown:You ain't Karen. Yeah. Like, I I I kinda don't give a fuck, and they haven't earned that with the audience yet. I don't think that those characters have earned Nothing on the actors. The actors are doing fine.
Alfredo Brown:They just haven't earned that any any weight. And and I think it's because the story moves so fast is that you don't get a lot of time for character development. And so I think this is one of those things. Too many ingredients. If you have less ingredients, we can focus on each individual character a bit more and expand the story.
Alfredo Brown:Right now, they're kind of hoping that people who are watching the show now have seen it before, because that's the only way you're caring about characters like Vanessa, like Bullseye, like Punisher who's been there for ten minutes, then he's gone. There there's there's a lot here where they're still really relying on the old guard.
Jagger May:Yeah. And I think you could eliminate the entire Muse plotline and the and the Hector plotline, still work in the vigilante thing in there somewhere. Or maybe make Hector be this background character that we see and we introduce sometime further down the road, and we coulda had a a a beautiful tight story. Because another thing that I really like, I didn't care about baby Gandalfini and b b b Urich. Now I care about them now.
Alfredo Brown:Right.
Jagger May:Yeah. And we're not getting that with Cherry and what's her name one more time? Kirsten. Kirsten. Kirsten.
Jagger May:Yeah. We're not getting that with him. So it's like you said, man. I didn't that whole Josie scene, it was again it Yeah. They're they're using them like the like that old series.
Jagger May:It's like, Matt, you know, do are you really this kind of person? I know you've been doing this for ten years, and you clearly are ready to crash the fuck out in a devil suit at any moment. But are you really this person? It's like, we gonna do this shit again? You know?
Matt Kopfhamer:And and that's kinda been my one complaint for the season, is the pacing is just so uneven from episode to episode that it's like you said, they're trying to move so fast with some things that they're unfortunately leaving behind the necessary character development for us as an audience to really be invested in in some of these character interactions and dynamics. So, excuse me, I I really wish like you said, Jagger, they had tightened the story down, maybe maybe cut out a couple of things, and we would have had a much better time from episode to episode to really give a shit about some of these characters. Like, as fun as Muse, though, that little mini episode arc or the the two episode arc was Whatever that looking back on it, if yeah. Looking back, it feels very unnecessary except for to put Heather Glenn in a mental space to where she is ready to, like, fucking leave Matt unless he tells her what's going on. So
Alfredo Brown:By the way, Heather Glenn? Holy shit. Was that not the most frustrating thing in the world? Like, I I everyone has been there before where you're talking to someone and they have an exact opposite recollection of what happened, where she's like, daredevil didn't kill him. I killed him.
Alfredo Brown:I saved myself. It's the fuck
Jagger May:he did.
Matt Kopfhamer:Not for me. Daredevil doesn't care about me. And it's like, he does.
Jagger May:Matt, you have fucked a Hulk at this point. I don't think you need to hang out with Heather Glenn anymore. Like, I just like, what what like, I'm not trying to be shitty. You know? I'm just like, what is she providing for you?
Jagger May:She just frustrates you all the time. Go back
Alfredo Brown:to She Hulk, man.
Jagger May:Just like I I I just don't get the Heather Glenn thing. I don't get it from any point as a writing standpoint. And I and maybe it's because I haven't seen their relationship in, let's say, like, Karen and Foggy or with, like, Elektra. I felt like we got, like, a lot and a lot of history with with that. And then I'm like, Heather, I'd be like, alright.
Jagger May:You're gonna side with Fisk? This is just be like all of a sudden the chick I'm dating for six months is just like, you know what? I'm full blown maggot. Yeah. I'm just like, alright.
Jagger May:Well, I think we gotta go. You know? Just like, I think we're done here. And, like, I think that's where Matt's at. And I'm like, buddy, you ain't married.
Jagger May:You don't like, let go of that Catholic guilt. Let Glenn go.
Alfredo Brown:Dude, this this fell move.
Jagger May:You're already two going.
Jagger May:Two four.
Alfredo Brown:Going to h e l l hockey sticks. Sorry. Michael Scott. Is it with this, like, it I think with these relationships and these characters, it feels more and more like a comic book in that we're getting sort of these character of the week type things and, like, a new issue for every two to three episodes. And I don't hate that, but it's such a far cry from the show that we used to have.
Alfredo Brown:And if you want us to care about these characters from the old show and you want to kind of keep that going and not necessarily pass the torch completely, I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too. I don't think you can turn this into a comic book villain of the week thing, character girlfriend of the week thing, new people dying all the time, characters come in for ten minutes, and then they're gone. I think you kinda had to stick with what we already knew. What you knew worked and and keep doing that. And so even I love this episode.
Alfredo Brown:I really did. Like I said, it was my favorite of the season. We had the same directors from episode one, eight, and now next week, nine. So the same director that did the opener where they had they reshot all of that did this episode, and they'll do the finale. And so I think we're going to have some good conclusion here.
Alfredo Brown:My worry is I don't know necessarily despite this episode being good if this show is gonna be able to do enough to bring people back to Daredevil or to bring new people into Daredevil.
Jagger May:It's the new people thing is Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:I think all they did was all they did was keep the diehards that really wanted this. And then the people who are really into the old Netflix show, they're probably fifty fifty on this. The Venn diagram of people continuing to watch Daredevil is probably not going to be that big.
Jagger May:Mhmm. And sorry for you guys who always make it a running joke now. I only talk to, like, five people. They're on this show, and they're my fiance. And, like, I used like, using the people I know as a litmus test on there.
Jagger May:It's just hard to sell this if you weren't there. Like like, we were there, Gandalf, seven years ago, and now we're here now. And this show has done enough for me to where, like, I'm ready for season two, and I'll be excited for it. But it's another one. I'm gonna be watching it alone in my office, which is fine.
Jagger May:I like I like office TV time on here, but it's not like the the communal sit down watch that we have with some of these other more popular shows that that that we cover. You know?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Like a White Lotus or a Severance. This is Exactly. A little bit more niche. And you're right.
Jagger May:Like likes doesn't wanna be just niche. And that's the prob like like, if they want this show to be just for us and DieHards, it'd be a lot different than what it is now. But the fact that MCU wants to be, you know, cornflakes, like, know, on a part of every breakfast type shit.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. And and I really hope that they tighten up in season two just to give it be focused. That's all I want. Just focus the story.
Jagger May:Focus.
Matt Kopfhamer:Because right now, there's just a little bit too much on the peripherals that I'm like, I feel like we're missing some stuff. And it just again, it's been this weird feeling all season of, like, up and down, up and down pacing. One episode, I'm like, okay. Daredevil's back. He's gonna kick ass, and then it's like, oh, nope.
Matt Kopfhamer:We're going back into a retrospective, Matt sad again. It's like, alright.
Alfredo Brown:What what's what's funny is I think that when we look at some of the episodes that have been our favorite throughout the series, I really like the bank heist episode. Love that. I liked this episode. Some of the best episodes have actually been the ones where we don't need the all the extra villains and a lot of the new characters. Like, we just need Matt being Matt and just some good writing.
Alfredo Brown:And I almost so I asked this question to you guys because I I think this might be a hot take. I would actually have done more of the commissioner Gallo and BB Yurich storyline Yes. And baby Gandalfini throughout this entire season as opposed to having Muse and Heather Glenn. And maybe instead of Heather Glenn, Kirsten, who works with Matt, is also a love interest in the comics. That could have been an easy tie in to the law firm, and you you you're condensing your story.
Alfredo Brown:You're bringing this down, and now we can care a lot more about less characters. And maybe you still do the white tiger thing. I don't know if you need to, because you still get the vigilante thing across. But, like, the commissioner Gallo, BB Urich thing is enticing. I wanna see where that goes.
Alfredo Brown:That would have been cool tension to have week in and week out the same way we had with Karen and Ben Urich for all of season one. This would have been great, and now we're not getting it to the penultimate. I don't I don't know that we're gonna get payoff. It's probably gonna be something that continues on into the next season, and I don't know that we care enough about it to go into next season and and want that again.
Jagger May:To compliment sandwich it, this dude, I had a complaint on here. Was like like, BB's not my Ben Urich. That was some Ben Urich shit right there. Yeah. Where she's like he's like, are you working tonight?
Jagger May:Yeah. And he's
Jagger May:just like, maybe I am. And then she sees homeboy. She's like, I gotta go back to work. And I was just saying, yeah. That's a fucking honeypot right there.
Jagger May:You know? I I had a moment. Scene.
Matt Kopfhamer:Sorry. I'll go I'll just
Jagger May:go. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:No. I I had a moment there where I'll be quick. I actually forgot that Kingpin killed Ben, and I forgot that that was that was a point of contention for it's been so long. Right?
Jagger May:Yeah. Right.
Alfredo Brown:I I forgot that that was a point of contention for her, and all I was thinking is, like, oh, young kid, social media age, trying to make a name for herself. And she's always like, yeah. Let's do shots with little baby Gandalfini. And then she did a good job. Like, she she honey potted me.
Alfredo Brown:I've She's working.
Jagger May:Yeah. It's not gross. She's working.
Alfredo Brown:That that that is the payoff is commissioner Gallo so good.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah, dude. When she pulled out the line where she's like, I don't write everything under my own name, I was like, shit. We got something cooking. This is great. I loved it.
Matt Kopfhamer:And then she pulled the card out and she's like, if you wanna tell the real story, email me. And then Gallo could see Gallo's like, okay. I'm dealing with somebody that can actually help me because he has been, for lack
Jagger May:of a
Alfredo Brown:He was so open. He was so open. He's like, I gotta file
Jagger May:and all.
Matt Kopfhamer:Literally, he got he got emasculated in front of the entire task force. Yeah. And he's like, I'll I'll stop you for assault. He's like, nah. This is assault.
Matt Kopfhamer:Strange to the
Jagger May:What you gonna do, buddy?
Alfredo Brown:He's just the mayor of Straight up to, like, get fucked, captain. I don't wanna Yeah.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he is absolutely willing to play ball with BB now, which is like, alright. Again, if this had been something in episode, like, four, five, or six, they'd given us some more time to breathe and give some weight to it, I think this would hit so much harder. And it hits hard as it is.
Jagger May:Yep. And I think they know what to do. They just need to do it. Like, you guys know I've been hater supreme. I'm hater supreme on here, but I have a lot of hope because it's the classic, you just need to edit yourself.
Jagger May:Like, a lot of good shit in here, dude. Just edit yourself. We can work with that. I'm just like, you know, like, give me this shit later. Like, I think Muse is cool.
Jagger May:I'm not all these things I'm saying to edit, I'm not saying I don't like them. I just need it added when it's time. Yeah. Like, I think Muse could have still been a plot line, but kind of how they've done this foggy thing, the slow play, it hasn't been direct in here, but we finally get that payoff. And it's been very comic booky like that, where we get, you know, some of these little Easter eggs in here where they're they're laying the, the breadcrumbs for the secret life of Foggy Nelson.
Jagger May:Maybe lay those breadcrumbs for Hector Ayala for next season because I will be there. And I wanna bring up a huge point. Alfredo, the two of the biggest things that we differ on is, like, you hate a political drama and shit like that. Mhmm. And, like, you're not attached so much.
Jagger May:Doesn't. It doesn't. It's not your favorite. It does. But the fact that you want that means that it's that part that I found is good is good.
Jagger May:Because it's like something like Succession. You know? No one not a lot of people like that format of Succession, but when it's good, holy fuck is it's good. And that's what Daredevil has right here. And I hope they see next season, they'll look back and be like, alright.
Jagger May:Here's here's where we really need to cook and focus on. So, like, I I'm very positive for season two as a fan, but for making Daredevil mainstream again, it's it's gonna be hard.
Matt Kopfhamer:Speaking of sorry. Go. I was just gonna say, how do we think with the way this episode ended, Matt taking a bullet like that, how how do we think they're gonna bring this finale in? Is is Matt just gonna be up and at them, like, after taking a bullet and running around? Or is he gonna be in a hospital bed for half of it?
Matt Kopfhamer:Like, I'm really I can't even guess where they're gonna go with this because he took a bullet to the chest. He's not dead, obviously, but that should be something that lays him out for a while. But he's daredevil, so he may be running around jumping off roost by the end of next episode.
Alfredo Brown:I'm intrigued at how they do that because Marvel does this thing all the time where they're like, finale, and Deadpool kinda makes fun of it. Time for the big CGI hero fight. You know? And, like, that's what Marvel does for every finale. So I I know we're gonna get a fight.
Alfredo Brown:I know we're getting Punisher. They've showed us too many pictures of it. We're getting cool black suit daredevil with the classic DD on it. Like, he's he's pulling an alternate away jersey for for this fine final episode. Mhmm.
Alfredo Brown:I'm curious how they're gonna do what you're talking about, Koff, because no shot is he out there fighting just the next day. So are they gonna do a time jump where it's been a couple days, a week, whatever it is? Right? Where basically while he's been bedridden and while he's okay. Okay.
Alfredo Brown:Fuck it. We're deep enough into the podcast now. Karen's in the next episode. If you didn't know that, I mean, whatever.
Jagger May:We gave
Jagger May:you a spoiler. We told you.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Karen's in the next episode, so I think there could be something here where there's a time jump where he's maybe getting out of town or Karen's coming to see him, and she's you know, there could be something here where it's a long time. The other thing that I still remember from this show, Matt has talked about his ability to heal slightly faster because he can meditate in a way that helps him really focus his his comic book thing.
Jagger May:That is a bad
Alfredo Brown:it's like comic book shit. Yeah. No. It it is. And, like, I remember that from, I believe, it was the second season or first season where it's like he can actually control how how much faster his body can heal.
Alfredo Brown:So I I don't think they're gonna do anything as hokey as that, whereas, like, within forty eight hours, he's back up and at them. But I I think it could be something where it's, like, over the span of a week, he's getting back in touch with his roots. He's seeing Karen. He's talking to Frank Castle. They're realizing the anti vigilante task force is out here, you know, creating havoc.
Matt Kopfhamer:And goals.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's it's time to time to fix things.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yep. Do you think with the way this show has been going and the way this ended, do you think that by the end of the finale, Fisk will be like, I'm still anti vigilante, but Daredevil gets a pass?
Alfredo Brown:What? No. No. Fisk fucking hates him.
Matt Kopfhamer:Like He saved his life.
Jagger May:I don't.
Matt Kopfhamer:He saved his life. I think there might be, like, a truce.
Jagger May:Be like, all vigilantes are okay except this nigga daredevil. Like Yeah.
Jagger May:He would do that before.
Alfredo Brown:Everyone butt this motherfucker.
Matt Kopfhamer:You made me look weak in front of Vanessa.
Jagger May:Yeah. Fuck you.
Alfredo Brown:Yes. Also, by the way, I okay. Let's let's just say this as well. Kingpin has a fucking lead lined suit, Kevlar lined suit every single episode. And here, Matt's like, you know what?
Alfredo Brown:What if he's not wearing one today? How he's fought him so many times.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. And he's, like, known to like, he's a known tank. Known tank, guys. Yeah.
Jagger May:Right.
Matt Kopfhamer:He took a bullet to the fucking eye, and he survived that shit.
Jagger May:Yeah. I know. That that that is definitely some comic book shit.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah.
Jagger May:But it's Great plastic surgeon. Yeah. It makes sense why he did it. It's still stupid that he did. Like, sometimes that's why I want the the defenders or at least more hero interaction.
Jagger May:So, like, if if this was an Avengers thing or, like, x men, you could just see Wolverine just be like, wow. You're a fucking idiot, dog. Like, you just think that through.
Alfredo Brown:What what
Jagger May:I think is funny
Matt Kopfhamer:is take the bullet dum dum. Like, what
Jagger May:do Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Luke Luke Cage up at somebody? Anybody? Yeah. The this show, it's interesting because they do so much, tell and not show for things that we don't really need, but then they don't do a lot of tell when we do need it. Like, I hope we get the payoff as to why he took the bullet, how he's going to heal, all those things.
Alfredo Brown:Even, bullseye, they kinda just explained away that Homie fell off a building, and he's
Jagger May:good. Just know that he's made of animantium. Like, have they ever said that? Had they They haven't
Alfredo Brown:said it once.
Jagger May:I just know that. Like but Explain the things we need explaining. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
Jagger May:Like, if I wasn't a virgin in high school, I would never know how he survived. Another thing too like, does he have, like, a super spinner? Like, I get that, like, he, like, hurt
Matt Kopfhamer:his teeth. Was his
Jagger May:tooth. Right?
Matt Kopfhamer:That That
Jagger May:was his
Matt Kopfhamer:tooth? Okay.
Jagger May:Like and that dude, like, I've been like, oh, that's fucking nasty. But,
Alfredo Brown:like Yeah.
Jagger May:Ew. Gross. You, like, what? Honestly, his throat
Jagger May:was a tooth. Yeah.
Jagger May:You you think he got, like, blasted by something hard. I'm like
Alfredo Brown:I mean, he that tooth came shot out fast. Gabby Gabby was watching with me, my wife, and she was enjoying the whole thing. And she goes, oh, well, that's just not real. And I was like, well, no shit, Gabby. Like, this can't be the the part I was like, what part of the blind lawyer doing karate and jumping off roofs is look seems not real all of a sudden?
Jagger May:They have context for that, though. He has radar sense. It's just like, if he has muscles where he could, like, fuck it, whatever, just give me the comic book context. But, like, even for that, I thought it was a
Alfredo Brown:The mouth muscles on bullseye. Every woman was watching that.
Matt Kopfhamer:Like, was he was in gen pop for for a couple days. So, you know Humble.
Jagger May:A boy could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Alfredo Brown:And you guys want the other one. Only reason
Jagger May:he's still alive.
Alfredo Brown:Homie had no hands. He just had to make do. We've either lost every subscriber, viewer, listener, or we gained a few for life.
Matt Kopfhamer:Exactly. Well, we got a new audience.
Jagger May:Yeah. Like, you you are hard subscribing or exiting right now.
Jagger May:No in between.
Jagger May:We're sorry or you're welcome.
Alfredo Brown:And or you're welcome. Whatever you need. Alright. This series right now, we are one episode away from finishing it. We always do this the one through 10 scale rating at the end of the series.
Alfredo Brown:Where is it at for you now, Cough?
Matt Kopfhamer:Oh, as a series of episode was a was a nine. The episode was a banger. But the series overall, I'll probably give it, like, a seven or a seven and a half. It's just been a little too uneven for me to really give it a higher score. When the high when when they hit their highs, they're nines and tens.
Matt Kopfhamer:When they hit their lows, it's like a five. So I'm gonna give it right in between, give it a seven and a half.
Alfredo Brown:That that's where I'm at as well. Seven and a half. It was at a seven. This episode was really good. Brought me up to a seven and a half.
Alfredo Brown:I think with a very strong finale, it can be at an eight. But I I I think we're most likely looking at probably a seven and a half for this Jag. Where are you at with the show?
Jagger May:Yeah. You guys nailed it. I'm at a light seven, meaning that, like, the next episode
Matt Kopfhamer:Soft seven.
Jagger May:It could go six and a half, or it could go, like That's fair. Like or a seven and a half, eight. So, like, I'm still here. I will whatever happens, I'm probably there for season two. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Well, there you go. We're all in. We're here. Boys, it's gonna be a wrap. Daredevil episode eight.
Alfredo Brown:Excuse me. Daredevil born again. Gotta make that distinction. Episode eight, and we're gonna be back again. We got Black Mirror coming out season seven.
Alfredo Brown:We just did a recap and explanation of the USS Callister episode from Black Mirror season four so that you guys are ready for the new season because we're definitely gonna be talking about that Into Infinity episode, the first sequel or true sequel that Black Mirror has done. We've also got a bunch of other shows coming up. The Last of Us season two and or season two. There's so much good TV that's gonna be going on now. And then as we get to the summer, we've got some big movies.
Alfredo Brown:Superman, Fantastic Four, Jurassic World Rebirth. You know, there's there's lots of good movies that are coming out. So make sure you are subscribed to Unbenched here on YouTube. So make sure to like this video, comment down below, and subscribe to the channel. If you're listening on Apple or Spotify, take a moment to leave us a five star review.
Alfredo Brown:It helps us out a ton. And, well, for myself, for Koff, for Jag, we wanna thank you guys for watching and listening all the way through. We'll see you next time. Adios.
Jagger May:Over the pants
Alfredo Brown:hand job. Yeah.
Jagger May:Over the pit. Yeah. I'm so pissed that it I got there. Like, the fact
Matt Kopfhamer:people are I like throwing it out every once in a while. People are like, what? My humor is dumb.
Jagger May:Yeah. We are home run hitter, cough. Don't never sell yourself
Matt Kopfhamer:See, it's all or nothing. All or nothing. I either get lots of laughs or some crickets.
