On today's show, we're discussing Black Mirror season seven episode one titled common people. We're gonna explain that devastating ending. Not that there's much to explain, but we're gonna break that down. We're gonna give our review of this episode and break down everything from this episode and discuss, honestly, what we would do, what you guys would do. Leave us some comments down below.
Alfredo Brown:All that and more on an all new episode of Unbinged starting now.
Jagger May:This is your one spoiler for Black Mirror. I can't promise that we won't spoil other episodes, but specifically, season seven common people. This is your one warning. Get out. Go watch it, then come back.
Alfredo Brown:I wanna start this off by saying, what the fuck? Because this ending of this episode just had me in absolute shambles. And I feel kinda cheated. I'm not gonna lie because everyone on every single social media website, even you guys, were just saying how much it broke you. And I already knew kinda what was coming, that it was going to be so sad that it still didn't it didn't hit as much as I wanted to, but it still hurt.
Alfredo Brown:So for you guys who experienced it fresh, what was this ending like? Because we're gonna jump in and explain it. But, Jag, I wanna I want you've said you've watched it four times. I I need to know why you keep doing this to yourself.
Jagger May:Crazy. I just keep well, one, I'm super ADHD, so, like, I just pick up extra things every time I watch it. But, like, two, it it is it's the picking up extra things. It's seeing not only the the the character's thought process. Like, Chris O'Dowd does does such a good job after seeing him play, like, a goofy Irish dude for the last decade.
Jagger May:Seeing him come to that thought process is it's almost kind of like why people watch dumb dummies. You know? Like, where you get this sick fascination of watching someone doing something that gross. For us as the viewer, we get this fascination of someone doing whatever they can to survive, and that makes me feel horrible even saying that. And that's kinda why we keep watching Black Mirror from, like, the the the prime minister, the national anthem episode from episode one.
Jagger May:This kinda had that same vibe where you feel weird, and then every second, it just gets worse and worse and worse. And I I don't know, man. Maybe I'm I'll just say it. I'm sick, Alfredo. I need I need therapy maybe.
Jagger May:I don't know.
Alfredo Brown:Don't say maybe. Don't say maybe.
Jagger May:Don't say anything.
Alfredo Brown:Don't leave it open there. Cough. This ending, man. This was rough. My wife, she didn't watch the whole thing.
Alfredo Brown:She saw the beginning, and she went off to work. And I told her what happens. And she's like, oh, I'm so sad. I'm so miserable. Like, why why why are you watching this?
Alfredo Brown:Why are you explaining it to me? I didn't even see it, and I hate everything right now. What went through your mind watching the ending of this episode?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. It it it I literally wrote in the group chat. I was like, this episode ending broke me. Like, I'm not even married. And just seeing Mike go through, you know, what he went through just to keep them going from a financial standpoint and then still watching his wife decline so rapidly in front of him to where she was no longer the same person.
Matt Kopfhamer:I mean, physically, mentally, everything was different. And it was, what, a three year span? Like, I think we covered three, maybe four at total. And and what really remind oops. Sorry.
Jagger May:No. Go ahead. I I I cut you off.
Matt Kopfhamer:I was just saying what it really reminded me of is somebody that's living with an a partner who has, like, Alzheimer's or or a cognitive, you know, disability where they're just slowly declining over time. And, god, what really broke me was like, just for one more day, just for one more day with that person that you love, that you've put everything in that basket where this is your person, and you are willing to mutilate yourself just so you could have thirty more minutes where they can feel some peace or some serenity. And then it's like, okay. For the the next twenty three and a half hours, you're going back to suffering. And it's like, god, that just fucking broke me so hard because then on the opposite end, you had this corporation who was preying on that, who instead of providing a cure, just treated symptoms and then strung along and and and nickeled and dined them to death.
Matt Kopfhamer:Literally nickeled and dined them to death. And that shocked me.
Alfredo Brown:So what what I was gonna say is that there's a thing here that you see with Mike, Chris O'Dowd's character, where you see the helplessness. You see that he can't control anything with his wife anymore. And that's kind of where he got with the whole dumb dummies thing, where it's almost like you kind of just gave into it, where he doesn't even have control of his own actions anymore because people are willing to give him money to just do these degrading and awful things that he doesn't want to do. There's so many people like that, and then, unfortunately, I hate that there are people that can relate to that even though this might be a gigantic, caricaturization of it. But it's he kinda just leaned into the not being able to control life, just going down that downhill slope and cough.
Alfredo Brown:Like you said, he gets that final thirty minutes where where I mean, most people would do anything for their person. Mhmm. This ending was I don't think it needs a lot of explanation, but what we did for our USS Callister into infinity episode was we went to the article on I was told that's how I have to say it. Yes. The Netflix companion site.
Alfredo Brown:And Charlie Brooker, he he talks about each of these endings here. And what he said is Amanda's final request is that Mike ends her suffering while, quote, I'm not there. And when he said that or when she said that, I was thinking he was gonna do, like, a cancel subscription when she's not around, something like that. No. It was when she's reading an ad, she's just basically not there for the remaining twenty three hours, because I think that's the assumption, right?
Alfredo Brown:The twenty three and a half hours is she's just an ad at all times, a walking billboard
Matt Kopfhamer:or sleeping
Jagger May:to the point that. Yep.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. To the point where he is he's smothering her. And, like, that's it's so dark. It's so crazy. I get that she's not aware of what's happening at that moment, but he is.
Alfredo Brown:He is. And after he kills her, he heads off into that room where he fills all his films, his Internet videos. And Charlie Brooker said, we see Mike go into the room, and we leave it slightly up to your imagination what's going to happen when he shuts the door. But you'll notice he looks directly at you, the viewer, at the last moment. And And that's all meanwhile, guys.
Alfredo Brown:He's holding that box cutter, and you can only imagine. I guess that that was the intention here. I originally thought he's just gonna go kill himself because that's probably what you do. But I almost wonder if he has surrendered so much to this life, years and years of not being able to control anything that he's so defeated, he might be going in there to do some sick, sick stuff and just kind of keep it going because he doesn't have a job. He doesn't have anything else.
Alfredo Brown:This is all he has left.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. He's gotta pay for a funeral now, and that shit's not cheap.
Jagger May:And and that's and that's what I meant to say to you, Koff, is, like, talk about after you watch Rashida Jones, Amanda, you see her kinda decline. You watch Chris O'Dowd kinda, like, age like Obama. You know? Like Yeah. If not even if not just, like, the gray, just, like, legitimately, it's like, man, you look like you did a full presidential term.
Jagger May:Yeah. Missing teeth, all that stuff.
Alfredo Brown:I'm gonna let you know, man. That's just how white people age.
Jagger May:For sure, man. I guess Just
Alfredo Brown:they they hit that cliff, man. They hit that cliff, bro. Like, 41, and then the next three years are rough.
Jagger May:For us, for black folks, Obama, no one has aged quicker than him. Like like, he came in
Alfredo Brown:young people. There's gotta be studies done on it. I don't want a documentary on his time in office. I want a documentary on, like, what the fuck made him age like that.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Dude, it's thing for presidents. Four or eight years, they literally go through, like, twenty years of aging while in office. It's a documented thing.
Jagger May:And you gotta think half their time is spent vacationing. Yeah. You got the weight of the the weight of the gun barrel on your back. What'll but, like, they have real life problems here to bring it back here. It's like, you you gotta think.
Jagger May:It's literally she's a a fucking cell phone now where they're using her the the they have, like, shared bandwidth now. It's it's crazy. And she's a walking ad, and he has to deal with that. And we we kind of briefly hit here, and I'm just gonna push it all the way there. Like, he can't get a job anymore.
Jagger May:You gotta think. For him to be able to afford that lifestyle, he had to be doing a lot of work. And depending on where you're gonna go at, let's say it's blue collar work, they might not they just might think you're weird, and they don't want you there. If you have a front facing job, they're like, we can't have you here because you're doing that. And it's kind of like and, Koff, I don't wanna take this from you because you you told this to me before we recorded.
Jagger May:A commentary on, like, the gig economy in general, like OnlyFans. That, like, some people may do it just because it's the only thing they they That's great. Can do. Yeah. And then you can't ever get out of it because no one will hire you to do anything else again.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Now you're stigmatized. And it's like, we've literally created a situation dudes
Alfredo Brown:in a day?
Matt Kopfhamer:A thousand? Yeah. Bonnie Blue. But, anyway
Alfredo Brown:Papa rattled that off like it was a 02/2006 Pro Bowl roster, man. Like
Jagger May:Yeah. Just ready
Alfredo Brown:to go.
Matt Kopfhamer:My social media algorithm is fucked. Anyway
Jagger May:He was
Alfredo Brown:like, Lavinia Thomas at 21 touchdowns, 1,800 total yards, but you were just ready to go.
Jagger May:Yep. Anyway.
Alfredo Brown:Yep.
Matt Kopfhamer:So, no, it's a it's a absolute commentary on the gig economy and the fact that we have allowed tech companies to put us in the situation because they've disrupted industries so much to the point where people have to literally sell themselves for pennies on the dollar. And so we are in this situation where it's like, okay, if you are hurting for a little bit of money, here's something you can do temporarily. Just don't think about the consequences. Because because if you think about the consequences, you'll realize like, no, this is not a long term solution unless you completely sell out. And we kinda feel this a little bit as content creators where it's like we're constantly battling.
Matt Kopfhamer:What do we cover? What do we do that keeps us true to ourselves, but also what's gonna gain us an audience? And so, god, there's so much wrapped up into this one episode. And what I really wanna touch on is when he is confronted by Shane, right, at the at the job site, and he inadvertently gets Shane I'm assuming killed because you don't get run over by a tractor like that and not like, you don't survive getting vivisected like that. I don't know.
Alfredo Brown:Ended up a little Rick James there where he's like, what I'm gonna do about my legs. I think that's what happened.
Matt Kopfhamer:Maybe. But at that point, you're right, Jack. He is completely screwed from getting hired anywhere because construction, he's a liability now. They will not hire him because he's a liability. And then front facing, like you said, because he has his face all over dumb dummies now, he is completely fucked.
Matt Kopfhamer:And so now his only kept the Araguana
Alfredo Brown:Grande bunny ears on the whole time, man.
Matt Kopfhamer:Hey. But $500 is $500. So
Jagger May:that's
Matt Kopfhamer:the thing. That's the thing. Like, that's the that's the point of what happened is he was literally between a rock and a hard place, and he chose again to endure his own suffering to help his wife because he loved her more than he loved himself. And you see that all the time.
Jagger May:Is this the we've had a lot of love episodes. Like, we we basically get, like, one or two per season at this point now.
Alfredo Brown:Mhmm.
Jagger May:Do you think this is the strongest indicator of love? This is, like, the strongest act of love in Black Mirror, where someone's real just legitimately willing to mutilate them themselves to to to keep someone alive and run run ads on them. Because, like, legitimately, like, Chris O'Dowd is a dedicated husband. Like, they went from their problems just being, like, about IVF and maybe to to, like, literally, I I wanna have a conversation with you without you trying to sell me hints
Alfredo Brown:ED men.
Jagger May:Or some shit like that. Yeah. Exactly.
Alfredo Brown:To to me, this became even more so than a thing about love because I think your your first half of this episode, all those things that he did, I I might do. Like, I saw myself saying, like, I might try the experimental surgery. Okay. You know, like, I'm I'm gonna pick up overtime hours to to get her the best, you know, care. And then where it starts to take that line over and and it's I don't I don't think it's any coincidence where it has this perversion of love is when he is on dumb dummies, and it becomes this perversion of, he doesn't even have his own self identity anymore.
Alfredo Brown:He is a life support machine. He's like a a support animal essentially for her at this point. Yeah. And she doesn't even know it. And this is honestly, it's a correlation to what happens a lot of times in marriage too.
Alfredo Brown:Like, are people that have been together twenty, thirty, forty years where one partner doesn't even have their identity anymore. They just do what the other one wants. And it's never gender specific. It's not it's not person specific. It's different in relationships.
Alfredo Brown:I'm not saying it's common, but it does happen.
Jagger May:It can happen. It's it's like it's not common, but it's not rare either. You know,
Alfredo Brown:it's even like the smallest thing where my wife's like, Hey, what do you want to eat for dinner? I'm like, I don't care. I'll eat anything. You're the picky one. Like, that's the smallest variant of this, right?
Alfredo Brown:Where I'm just willing to lose my food identity and do whatever she wants. But like this poor man, he lost it. Like, it started off as this beautiful act of love, and it just kept getting more and more perverted by. And I don't mean that literally, like with the dumb dummies thing. I mean, that it's getting twisted and changed through this company, through what was it?
Alfredo Brown:A river mind or
Matt Kopfhamer:River mind. River mind. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. I mean, fuck, dude. If that I I love that Netflix, by the way, is, like, the only one that could really pull that off because aren't they still the only streamer without ads?
Jagger May:They haven't I
Matt Kopfhamer:don't think so.
Jagger May:I think
Matt Kopfhamer:Now there's an ad. There's an ad tier. Yeah.
Jagger May:Yeah. It's like a four
Alfredo Brown:ninety tier.
Matt Kopfhamer:99 or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Jagger May:Yeah. And it's and I love how antagonistic Charlie Brooker is to the platform that pay us for.
Alfredo Brown:Because, like so funny.
Jagger May:Yeah. Because it's like, you had a whole season that was basically fuck streaming, and then you're like, you know what? I'm not done. One more about some One
Matt Kopfhamer:more thing.
Jagger May:This is him testing to
Alfredo Brown:see if, like, anyone in the corporate office actually watches the show.
Jagger May:Yeah. You probably can't. You're just like, we're getting views. We're getting views. It's fine.
Jagger May:You know? Because it's it's very meta in that sense. And Especially Sorry. I was gonna say the subscription model, like, actually, I wanna be antagonistic to my own platform, YouTube. One of my gigantic pet peeves is that I pay for YouTube TV, and you still want me to pay $15 for YouTube premium so I don't get ads on it.
Jagger May:It's insanity that they do this to us all the time. And then you see it to the point where like, I have, like, a whole concept where, like, you lose limbs and you rent out your limbs on there. Like, like, the there's multiple concepts on this that the more I watch Black Mirror, the more I think it's just a warning and not so much like a commentary anymore. And we're soon gonna be close to subscription for that. You know?
Jagger May:For health care.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. You You gotta think And this is It's
Jagger May:is health insurance? It's a subscription to go to the doctor. You know? Yeah.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. I mean, it's it's fundamentally, we are sliding into this dystopia quicker and quicker because we're allowing billionaires and corporations to continue to push us this way and allowing things like god. I could see Rivermind coming out. And, again, the way she presents it as this miracle cure and then continuously baits and switch them. Baits and switch them.
Jagger May:Baits and switch them.
Matt Kopfhamer:Oh. Yeah. Oh, RiverMind Plus is now our standard tier. And now RiverMind Lux is the premium. And if you want coverage outside of your hometown, you gotta pay for the premium.
Matt Kopfhamer:It's like, god damn it, man. You said that this would just roll out everywhere. You didn't mention anything about tiers and pricing. And, again, it's because corporations only care about the bottom line. And if we truly allow privatization in the health care space to this level, then it's gonna lead to nothing but profits over people.
Matt Kopfhamer:And that's how we continue to slide into this, like, dystopia of health care nightmares in America.
Alfredo Brown:You know what I was waiting for? Was for him to cancel the subscription and then get notified that he's got one more billing cycle left to pay for. Yeah. You just gave a thirty day notice, and you gotta live with that decision now a little bit longer and keep living with her being alive. Like, that to me would have been the cherry of subscription services on top of the whole episode.
Alfredo Brown:It would have been just perfectly dark.
Jagger May:Let him cook. That's that would have been good. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Right? And that's something that, like, Charlie
Matt Kopfhamer:Parker just a pillow. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah. Like, it that big draw it drove him to that. I think, like, they stretched it out quite enough, though. Was, like, three years of this.
Alfredo Brown:But Charlie Brooker, he kept talking about, like, how this ending became so dark and how the the episode throughout was almost kind of funny. And then it takes such a twist, which is why it takes you into this, like, emotional roller coaster. And he said this idea for doing the advertisements came from a funny place. And he says, I'd been listening to a lot of podcasts where the host would suddenly break off and start pitching products and then go back to the rest of the podcast. So I thought, oh, this is going to be a funny one, which by the way, guys, we're giving away a $200 Amazon gift card to anyone that is watching or listening to this episode right now.
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Jagger May:Thanks, Amanda. That was good.
Alfredo Brown:Thank you. Thank you. I do my best.
Jagger May:We got lube for sale. Is there a lube?
Alfredo Brown:Honey nugs?
Jagger May:Honey nugs?
Alfredo Brown:I'm not gonna lie
Matt Kopfhamer:Christiancounseling.com.
Jagger May:Honeynugs sound like Honeynugs sounds like a a weed strain. But, yeah, it does. Christian counseling. The one thing that I I wanna hit on about that that, this the the kid thing, is this is in the future. There's pretty strict laws for ads.
Jagger May:So I wonder if these companies are getting around it because people ads are different. Because YouTube is incredibly strict on the ads that we're allowed to run our own. Like, you you you legitimately can't pitch shit like that to a kid like Christian. You can't be like, hey. You know?
Jagger May:Do you wanna find Jesus in your heart? You can't, like you we can't do that. And we have to, like basically, if you're a child, we have to, one, not curse. Two, all the ads are gonna be toys and shit. You know?
Alfredo Brown:I I think given the climate of being able to just have subliminal messages inside of someone's brain like that to other people, I kinda think all of the rules and regulations have gone out the window at that point.
Jagger May:Yep. Well and and we see now is corporations hire lawyers. They hire big brains. We're like, hey. How do we get around every rule ever?
Jagger May:So it's like as soon as something new happens, yeah, they they are gonna go all the way. And that's what's wrong with, I wanna say the world, but America specifically, we are really bad about excess. And, like, we our opinions, we can't ever get in the middle of anything all the way to, like, we can't just be normal or or have a a regular a regular amount of of anything. So corporations can't just be happy with what they have, and they need to go all the way to the extreme right away, and then you have to taper back what they can do. So this is, like, uncharted territory for them to run ads until they probably can't or eventually becomes illegal.
Matt Kopfhamer:But, Jagger, think of the shareholders. How will they get another vacation home?
Jagger May:Yep. And do you like, I asked you guys this ahead of the show, but, like, we and we wanted to to save it for here. Basically, workers are slaves. Because you gotta think, the person they had in the ad for Lux said that she had RiverMine. Their sales rep had RiverMind.
Jagger May:And then we see them we see her adjust the nonchalant thing. You gotta know that, like, they gotta feel terrible that you're doing this to these people, and you've gotta be adjusting yourself to be able to handle it.
Alfredo Brown:I I think the part where they try to convince themselves, oh, they'll hear us out, RiverMind. We've been loyal customers. The fuck they will. That's they go there and they find out immediately. They do not care.
Alfredo Brown:And it's honestly well, the one that got me even worse was when they go, oh, are you trying to get pregnant? Because that's another $90. It's extra. It was just
Matt Kopfhamer:Just extra.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. And that was the thing is like, it's not like the prices she was giving. Did you guys notice that every time she gave a price, that'll be $800 on top of what you're currently They would never actually say, that's 1,200. That's 1,500. They're saying it's 800 on top of what you were already paying.
Alfredo Brown:And that's that's such a business model thing to do is to say the smallest number you can because you're technically not lying. So, like, I as someone who has, like, been in business, been around marketing people, I appreciated that so much that it's a super dick thing to
Jagger May:do, but they got
Alfredo Brown:it right. Yeah. It's incredibly insidious. And that was that was a there were many breaking points throughout this episode. But that last moment there where she brings up the 90 extra dollars for being pregnant was just I think that was the breaking point for the characters where they there is no life.
Alfredo Brown:There's no life. We can't procreate like we've been wanting to. We're never going to have normalcy. And I wonder for you guys, maybe not what your breaking point is because I don't know that I want to know that on the actually, you know what? Fuck it.
Alfredo Brown:What's your breaking point? What's your breaking point? This is just good content. This is gonna be a clip right here.
Jagger May:Would have
Alfredo Brown:been taking your bunny mask off? No. Come on.
Jagger May:He's laughing.
Alfredo Brown:He's just like No.
Matt Kopfhamer:No. I wouldn't I wouldn't do dumb dummies. Like, I would have found something that's less painful because I don't do pain.
Alfredo Brown:I mean, he mentioned Uber Eats. He mentioned Uber
Jagger May:Eats and horns. Postmates.
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. I would've done something else that's not involving
Alfredo Brown:And instead he's
Matt Kopfhamer:ripping a tooth out.
Jagger May:It was the additional sleep for me that did it, where I'm like, they don't value you, and they're using your brain as a server. I'm
Alfredo Brown:like Yeah.
Jagger May:I'd be like, I'm sorry, babe. Like, we need to make decisions. This is only going to get worse. Like and I'm lucky that, like, that Amy is one of the most technologically averse people I know. Like, she has a hard time with me doing YouTube or something like this.
Jagger May:So she would be pissed if I did that to her. So, like Mhmm. To just knowing for my situation, no, I wouldn't make that decision because I know she would be totally upset if I would put any of that shit in in her head or something. But that would have been my breaking point. Was it the the, like, well, now what's twelve hours?
Jagger May:You know? Like, as an adult, you're sleeping twelve hours? Twelve hours, you have Sixteen
Matt Kopfhamer:if you're on the call if you're on the lower tier.
Jagger May:Yeah. If if if you're on the poverty plan, you know.
Matt Kopfhamer:And that's that's a great point is what we haven't spoken about is this RiverMind Lux edition where they're doing the advertisement. Like, oh, you can access abilities from other users. But the bar it's hilarious.
Alfredo Brown:Politely, do
Matt Kopfhamer:know the park's gonna stop? That is? Like, you they are literally you were paying into RiverMind. And if you're on these lower tiers, you are then being exploited. Your brain is being exploited for these one percenters to then steal like, literally steal your abilities.
Matt Kopfhamer:So now they may have never been able to play piano, but if you can play piano, they can now access your brain and utilize that ability while you're dead to the world asleep and running advertisements. Like, how fucked is this? So fucked.
Jagger May:I also wanna say that, maybe I'm overthinking it. I just think it's a huge plot hole to say you could do popcorn because someone else does. That's not how
Matt Kopfhamer:Right. That's not how physiology works?
Jagger May:Yeah. I was gonna say that's not how that works at all. It's like, I'm willing to ignore this because you've spent so much other detail on other things.
Alfredo Brown:And it's fucking hilarious.
Jagger May:Yeah. Parkour. Parkour. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:It almost took
Jagger May:me out of office. It really did, dude. It's just like, if you know anything about the human body, you're like, that's that's not how that fucking works at all.
Alfredo Brown:But I think that was the point. I think it was supposed to be such a perversion of this whole thing so ridiculous that the ridiculous has now become the norm. And, like, they just keep doing it. And, honestly, like, that's where we've gotten with subscription services too. Like you mentioned, sorry, YouTube.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Don't demonetize us. But, like, with with Netflix, with everything else, it's like it just keeps going up and up and up and up. It's it's absolutely insane. And I I know I asked, like, what the breaking point would be for you guys, and I talked to my wife about it.
Alfredo Brown:I was like, you know, Gabby, would you want me to keep you alive and do this whole thing? And she said no. She said, like, that she wouldn't want that. She only would want to live her way. Like, that's that's it.
Alfredo Brown:And she's mentioned that to me before. What? Does she have a DNR?
Matt Kopfhamer:I do not yeah. Do
Alfredo Brown:not Yeah. Yeah. No. I know what that is. Mean, we don't have that right now, but that's a little too
Matt Kopfhamer:personal for
Alfredo Brown:the bunch. Yes. Oh, okay. Dude, I got, like, a, like, a $15,000 life insurance policy. Okay?
Alfredo Brown:Like, I'm not worth anything, and I kinda I kinda wanna keep it that way right now so Gabby doesn't kill me. You know?
Jagger May:Yeah. So she's not incentivized do read what do you guys have a prenup? Why don't you read that on air too? Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Jagger May:What are your assets and yours? So she's creating them.
Alfredo Brown:It's all tied up in stocks right now. I don't have much liquid on me. I'm just kidding.
Matt Kopfhamer:Don't worry. It's all in the cloud anyway.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Fuck the cloud. So, like, I actually wonder. This this question, I think, is even more intriguing because I think as as men, right, and, like, Jack, you have your fiance. I have my wife.
Alfredo Brown:We can easily look at Mike's perspective on this and his choice of doing that for his wife. What if you were Amanda? What if you're on this other side of this? Are you going along with this for your partner's sake? Are you going along with it to stay alive?
Alfredo Brown:Or are you saying, well, it's it's it's my time? The thing is that she doesn't get that opportunity because she's in a coma. Right? But I'm curious as to prior to this, do you have this discussion with your significant other? Where where are you at with that?
Alfredo Brown:Jack, I wanna I wanna ask you first.
Jagger May:You guys know me well enough, and, obviously, Amy knows me well enough. I am borderline paranoid, like tinfoil hat going everywhere. There's no way I would do this. I'd be like, I am dead. You know, that sucks.
Jagger May:I would be if if they woke me up, I would I'm not gonna lie. I I would I would ask for them to kill myself. If they said no, I would do something to kill myself and try to make it easy on my partner to where they don't find me. Because, like, I I'm I'm just a paranoid person, naturally. I don't trust this.
Jagger May:Like, Black Mirror and all these things, that's the content that I resonate with. I every how many rants have I went on Alfredo in, like, a group chat? I'm like, this is why corporations blah blah blah blah blah blah. Like, even on this pod, there's no way I could do that.
Matt Kopfhamer:23 and Me is a scam. No.
Jagger May:It is, dude. What the
Matt Kopfhamer:fuck? Hey.
Jagger May:I'm just
Alfredo Brown:coming out of left field and being Chad's like, he's he's right, though.
Matt Kopfhamer:So the way I view this, right, if this had been, like, her losing a limb, you know, something like, god, getting a organ replaced that's not her brain. If I was in that situation, sure. Go for it. Like, the the length of that complication is a lot less than, like, fucking with your brain. Like, I refuse.
Matt Kopfhamer:When this Neuralink bullshit comes out, I refuse to get any be anywhere near that. Because as soon as you start messing with your your neurological capabilities, are you even the same person anymore? Like, that's where I thought this may have gone where maybe she like, they were gonna alter her in some other way. Now they went the corporation route where they made her in fucking walking advertisement, which is gross and horrifying. But I kept waiting for, like, a horror element where she started, like, killing animals or or doing something like that where she lost herself and lost her humanity because she is now a part machine.
Matt Kopfhamer:But they went a different way completely.
Jagger May:So there's still a horror. It's just a lot
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. Just a different angle than I expected. Right? But, no, I I think when it comes to my brain, I wouldn't want them to do anything. Like, let me go.
Matt Kopfhamer:Just let let it let it happen.
Alfredo Brown:It's interesting because Amanda's character, she I mean, she's a teacher. She's pretty used to current events and even technology when she's talking about the bees. Right? The bees. I like how that was a little thing that they they, yeah.
Alfredo Brown:You know, like, a little Easter egg that they put in there where you've got these robotic bees, the drone bees as as they're called. Like, this is a society that's pretty used to these things. And I wonder if, like, that's the concept in this episode if that everyone has just gotten so used to the tech that there's kind of all like, yeah. Fuck it. We don't not trust it.
Alfredo Brown:You know? It's become the norm. Much like streaming has now become the norm. Subscriptions have become the norm. Talk to any person that's that's older, like senior citizens.
Alfredo Brown:They don't want to have anything to do with subscriptions. They always ask, are you gonna keep charging me after this month? They don't want anything to do with that. It's like, it's I I know it seems ridiculous in this episode, but just like as time goes on, things become the new norm, and we become so much more trusting of it that it's it's it's it's kinda fucked.
Jagger May:Again, if it's anti government, anti corporate, I've probably read it. You know? Of course, we all know the hunger games, though. We even get to that point of, like, body modification, you know, with, like, Botox and everything where it's, like, used to, you're like, oh, she had work done. Like, like, you know, people would judge it.
Jagger May:Now it's just
Matt Kopfhamer:like It's common.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. Like, who's your person? Who's this? Like, we're just and and we're all
Alfredo Brown:And it's getting younger.
Jagger May:It's getting younger. That's what I'm saying. And we're getting more and more ridiculous. Like, dudes, we we look at Instagram, we think that, like, well, you have to be ripped and shredded and blah blah blah. Or even like me, like, I'm a fit fitness guy, you know, whatever, where I try to have look good and get body dysmorphia.
Jagger May:Girls are doing crazy shit to their face younger and younger than
Alfredo Brown:Show us the glutes.
Jagger May:No. Show us
Alfredo Brown:the glutes.
Jagger May:No. The the
Alfredo Brown:Make the people go to YouTube. No. I'll give you $20.
Jagger May:Okay. This isn't dumb dummy. Sign out. Alfredo Alfredo is just ready to be a RiverMind rep right now. I don't even know what I I can't I lost my train of thought.
Alfredo Brown:Sorry. Sorry.
Jagger May:I was like You can subscribe
Alfredo Brown:to UnBench plus, and I can get you back on track.
Jagger May:Yeah. Exact
Alfredo Brown:it's so good. It's so good.
Jagger May:Tech is just the pit the the the the tip of it. Like like you said, like, we get used to terrible shit all the time. You know?
Matt Kopfhamer:Yeah. In the name of convenience, we're willing to overlook things like security and and yep. Yep. We're willing to accept the cost because it's more convenient now even though it's, at the end of the day, terrible for us.
Jagger May:Mhmm.
Alfredo Brown:So we've talked about the ending of this and and all the things that we liked in it. Maybe things like we saw that were plot holes, but with every episode that we watch of something, we always give it a review. We're gonna rate it on a scale from one to 10. And, Jag, I wanna start with you. What's your rating for this episode?
Jagger May:Eight. Maybe nine. Not nine. Like, it it did its job, man. Like, it did its job.
Jagger May:It's a nine for me. And the only reason why it's not a 10 is, like, you can't say you had fun. You know? When
Alfredo Brown:can you say that in Black Mirror? That's, like, one out of every five episodes are fun.
Jagger May:USSCalister. That's that's that's about it.
Alfredo Brown:That's end of list. Yeah. End of demo. Oh, what about you?
Matt Kopfhamer:I'm also, yeah. I'm also gonna give it a nine only because I don't think I'll ever be able to watch it again. Like, this is a one and done for me. Like, I this is because yeah. No.
Matt Kopfhamer:Thanks. Great episode. Fantastic performances. But yeah. Yeah.
Matt Kopfhamer:No. I don't wanna experience that again. That hurt too much.
Alfredo Brown:It's eight and a half for me, and it's has actually nothing to do. It's unfortunate. It's outside circumstances. It has nothing to do with the episode itself. And maybe, like, I I can probably block that out.
Alfredo Brown:But everyone talking about how dark it was, how twisted it was, how sad it was, it kind of took that away from me. Right? It's kind of like if you're going into Avengers Infinity War and and everyone walking out of the theater was just like in shock and, like, hands like, facing their hands and sad. It's like, oh, okay. Well, we know this ends sad.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Like, it kinda takes that away from you. So that was the only thing for me that it took it away. But honestly, man, yeah, I'd probably do a bunch of shit for Rashida Jones too. She was she's she's she's on there as the cheat code, hall pass, all that, whatever you wanna call it.
Alfredo Brown:But the episode was great. She was really funny. There was I kinda got because my my wife's like a small little brown girl as well. And, like, I was telling her, Gabby, Gabby, you got to come watch this because look, it's us. It's a white guy and a brown girl.
Alfredo Brown:And they're just having the most fun and they're so happy and they're laughing. And she was like, Oh yeah, that's cute. That is us. And then like ten minutes and she's like, Fuck this episode. I'm never I never want to watch this show.
Alfredo Brown:You always try to make me watch this show and it sucks. And yeah, that's where we ended up with. So eight and a half. I still want I want more fun things. Give me more Pixar shit.
Alfredo Brown:Sorry. I know, Jack. I know. I see you looking at me like that. Well, with that, guys, if you haven't checked out our previous Black Mirror episode that we talked about, we, we broke down US Callister into USS Callister into Infinity.
Alfredo Brown:We did a recap and discussion on USS Callister back from season four. And then after this, we're going to be doing another Any explained and review episode for the episode playthings, which I got some strong opinions on it. Got some strong opinions on it. Black Mirror season seven. It's kind of all over the place, but, we're gonna be back again.
Alfredo Brown:Like I said, we're talking about some other shows. Last of us and or we just finished white lotus. We've got the finale of daredevil coming up. And in the comments, let us know what content you want us to do. Maybe maybe, you know, we're kinda turning this into dumb dummies.
Alfredo Brown:You know? You wanna throw a dollar at us? We'll we'll do we'll do whatever content you want. Okay? I won't.
Alfredo Brown:No. That's that's fair.
Matt Kopfhamer:Actually, no. It's worse.
Alfredo Brown:We're offering people money. We're offering people Amazon gift cards for for our own content. This is actually this is the dumbest of dummies. But yeah. Oh, fuck.
Jagger May:We'll pay you. You don't
Alfredo Brown:watch dumb.
Jagger May:You do weird shit. Dumber dummies. Alright.
Alfredo Brown:I think that's gonna be a wrap for us. Like I said, we're gonna come back and do another Black Mirror episode. As always, wanna thank you guys for watching and listening all the way through for myself or Jack Rakoff. We'll see you next time. Adios.
Matt Kopfhamer:That sounds like something fucking Piper or, fucking Parker Posey would say as Victoria College.
Jagger May:I was actually trying to be like righteous gemstones or like baby Billy.
Alfredo Brown:Daddy, were you doing sex with her? Yeah. Daddy way he walks is so good.
Jagger May:Daddy don't Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Daddy would call Sriracha China ketchup.
Jagger May:Daddy fancies himself a cocksmith.
Alfredo Brown:My god. It's so good. Okay.
Jagger May:It's like she got that whole world villain tour. It got me feeling like idiot of Go
Alfredo Brown:on now. Pay you to nanny. Go on to nanny.
Jagger May:Go get these kids out of my face. Why
Matt Kopfhamer:is that boy speaking to me?
Alfredo Brown:Billy Junior doesn't get loaded in his diaper. Get out of here, dude.
Jagger May:Like, baby Billy is, like, fucking Borat for me now. Like, Amy is so annoyed all the time at me because, like, I'm like, I was like, Go on now woman, I'm cooking. It's like, Go
Alfredo Brown:on now.
Jagger May:I can't
Alfredo Brown:stop, man. It's so funny.
Jagger May:I She farted and I did though. You better go clean yourself up. You're wipe down good now.
Alfredo Brown:She's like she's like, it's
Jagger May:so annoying because you're southern, and you can do it.
Alfredo Brown:Fucking amazing.
