On today's episode of the Unbinge podcast, we're giving you our breakdown review of Andor season two episodes four through six. And while the rebellion is testing relationships like Cassian and Bix and so many other characters, could we actually be seeing characters that might even flip sides in all of this? Gorman is at the center of everything, and, well, most of us know how that's going to end. Calibrate your enthusiasm because an all new episode of Unbinged should start.
Jagger May:This is a reaction and after show podcast where we're gonna be talking about the show and or. We're gonna be spoiling anything that's happened in Star Wars since ever to 02/2005. So good luck. Come back whenever you've watched it.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. I need reactions from the show. Biggest takeaway from this three episode arc, Jagger, what'd you take away from this?
Jagger May:We getting that grimy shit, y'all. Like, this is what I wanted. Like, when you watch Rogue One and, you see Cassian give like, basically, just like, yeah. It's like, we've all done terrible things. You know?
Jagger May:Like, me in the theater, I'm like, what terrible things? You know? Like, what kind of shit you've been doing, dog?
Alfredo Brown:I'm a naturally curious person, Cassie.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You can't say that.
Jagger May:Yeah. That's what we finally got, and it's it's really exciting. And I I know I I know, like, the word grounded sometimes is like a, a taboo word within nerds because, like, I just want the real thing I've always had. But I think this is politically grounded to where even if you don't like a political drama, this is incredibly engaging. Because a lot of times with Star Wars, we think, well, Han Solo's this rogue guy.
Jagger May:He's like, is he really? He kinda killed people who deserved to die and, like, maybe fucked over some other bad people. But, like, he wasn't doing some Cassian shit. Moreover, it wasn't just a group of people rallying together and overthrowing a government to where it was just like out of one speech. Almost Greg Gorman is a perfect example of that's just not gonna work.
Jagger May:And sometimes you need to be more strategic and you need to play dirtier to have success, or you're just falling into the empire's plans because they are willing to play dirty.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Honestly, I am loving the scope of this show because we're not just seeing one perspective. We're not just seeing one hero's journey like the movies where we see basically Luke's story. Obviously, there are side characters and other other main characters, but this show is really taking the time and the the effort to show us all the different types of rebellions that are popping up over the galaxy and in the empire and how different factions are reacting. So we see the Saw Gerrera's faction go which are more like Saw's crazy.
Matthew Kopfhamer:This point, Saw is insane. Saw's wild. I love they gave us dude, I love they gave us more of his backstory because we've seen him since the Clone Wars show, and We've gotten bits and pieces of his background. And every single time we see him, we're like, god, that crazy asshole got another
Alfredo Brown:person Slowly becoming more machine as it goes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Spoilers for Bad Batch. I'll never forgive him for text death. But, anyway, I just love how we're seeing all these different groups, and we're seeing it exemplified in this arc with the Gorman resistance, which is evocative of, like, the French resistance in World War two, where you have Cassian coming in as a consultant going, they're too inexperienced, and they're too gung ho to try to do something.
Jagger May:They're trying to send
Matthew Kopfhamer:message just like the French.
Jagger May:Trying to
Alfredo Brown:send message. Won the war, buddy. Get over it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But then you see him when he translates that back to Luther, and Luther's like, but we can use that. Like, we can absolutely take this cause and twist it to our own advantage for the greater rebellion. And you see the disgust on and on Cassian's face, and he's like, that's not how I wanna play things. And Luther, again, is almost like the amoral voice of reason for the rebellion at this point. And last arc, it was him telling Mon, like, hey.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Your boy is crashing out. We gotta take care of that. And Mon's like, oh, no. We can't do that. And this time, it's him telling Cassian, like, shit's about to get real and Gorman's gonna pay the price, and that's gonna help us in the long run.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So I'm really loving how they're integrating all these different stories, all these different factions, and really making it because you're right. In the movies, it's kinda glossed over, like, what actions did they have to take to get the Death Star plan. So we saw what happened in Rogue One, and now we're seeing how the events that lead up to that to scare us. And, god, every second of this show is fascinating to me. Whether they're showing us the rebels, they're showing us the empire, they're showing us the ISB, we're showing us just people on the ground.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Like, I am blown away by the scope of this show. And I love the way
Jagger May:that you brought up France, man, as an example. Because, like, I literally thought the whole time, I'm like, this is just planet Paris fashion Yeah, dude. And, respect to the French, they don't put up with no shit, and they are willing to have a revolution at any moment. And I love that about your country. The only difference is you can't be like that with someone like the empire with this scope.
Jagger May:You know? Like, the Nazis won. It took over everything, essentially.
Alfredo Brown:Koff, to kinda piggyback on what you were saying is what I like about this is that with these three episode arcs, we are we're getting different themes with each of the arcs. And the theme from this one is sort of the cause. Right? The cause over feelings. Right?
Alfredo Brown:It's relationships. And that's the big part of this three episode arc here is relationships and how the cause of the rebellion needs to weigh more than that. And when that happens and when you're fighting your cause versus your relationships, it gives these deaths more weight. And whether it's Gorman or any other characters that we have dying throughout the show or eventually dying, it gives more weight to that, and it makes it mean something. You go back to the movies and entire planets are getting destroyed, you're like, oh, shit.
Alfredo Brown:That's Anyway Yeah. That sucks.
Jagger May:Rough, bro.
Alfredo Brown:So Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's tough. Meanwhile,
Alfredo Brown:back on Tatooine. Here's Luke and his blue milk. Like,
Jagger May:it's just Are
Matthew Kopfhamer:we sad about Obi Wan?
Alfredo Brown:It was like a family guy cutaway. Yeah. So, yeah, like, this this really gives these characters more weight. And I think that what this show has done that I don't think anything is in Star Wars has ever done before is it has given characters growth that they have earned and that they are still earning. Because we see characters change all the time throughout Star Wars through a three movie trilogy, right, or even beyond that, talking about guys like like Luke, for example.
Alfredo Brown:But his biggest growth happened off screen most of the time with Luke Skywalker. And a lot of these characters who change, it's off screen or it's too quick where it doesn't feel real. This feels real. To go back to, Jack, what you said, grounded and not using it as a pejorative. There's there's something that is very wholesome, very authentic, very real about this show and the way they're grinding this out and just absolutely loving it.
Alfredo Brown:And I'm I'm really happy that they did the three episode arc.
Jagger May:And and because it doesn't play
Matthew Kopfhamer:off of that. Sorry. I just wanna, I was really worried when they were when each arc is gonna have that one year time jump in between. I was like, I don't know if it's gonna mess with the flow and the pacing, but I think it worked wonderfully. We saw like you were saying, we saw a little bit of growth from characters off screen like Bix.
Matthew Kopfhamer:We saw her that she's still dealing with the PTSD of, a, the torture, from Gorst and also, you know, her attempted rape by the imperial officer. So but because there was a year time jump, we we kinda get to fast forward some of that healing. And then by the end of episode six, we see how Cassian is straight up ride or die. Like, I'm gonna help my I'm gonna help my lady, like, get over this if I can through any means necessary. But I really liked how they were able to play with that pacing and made it feel real, made it feel grounded in a way that made sense.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It wasn't jarring. So I'm really happy about that.
Jagger May:Yeah. Because, like, you gotta think, throughout the entire rebellion, how many people did did Luke Skywalker kill? Like, four. Like, a a fuck. No.
Jagger May:Son, dude.
Jagger May:He he shot the death star
Alfredo Brown:and exploded it.
Jagger May:He killed
Alfredo Brown:all those people, and we're just like, ah, damn. It's like now we actually put names and feelings to these people.
Jagger May:Yeah. And and I mean the rebellion in general,
Matthew Kopfhamer:like the stuff that we
Jagger May:don't see on the screen that, like, happens in the comics. He was a Jedi. He mowed down eight ass load of people. Like, in
Alfredo Brown:the RIP Forkins.
Jagger May:Yeah, dude. He's just not I I just don't think he would be as well adjusted, and I and I the sequel trilogy doesn't do a good job at anything with Luke Skywalker, so I'm just kinda not thinking about that. But, like, this show does a good job of showing the cost of what it is to be a hero and what a hero actually is. You know? Because I love old homie was it Rylands?
Jagger May:Yeah. Carlo Rylands. We're just like, well, you're not much of a revolutionary, are you? And I'm like, no. He's a get shit done type thing.
Jagger May:It's like, y'all doing revolutionary. He's trying to do, like, long lasting change. You know? Because some what happens to these revolutions is, alright. We toppled one guy out, and then all we did was create a power vacuum.
Jagger May:You know? And we and we that's gonna happen. Obviously, we already see that with Mandalorian and whatnot. And I I just think that's a that's pretty beautiful. One thing I wanna ask you guys, do you think that Luton is kinda losing it at this point?
Jagger May:Yes. Because we see both Lonnie and Cassie, and he's just like, you're not as careful. You know? Even his own yeah. Is that his wife?
Jagger May:Is that his daughter? Like, what what is their relationship?
Matthew Kopfhamer:We don't know. They never really explained it. I think she's his boss. Like, I think she's secretly the one running shit, and he's the face of, like, the he's the supposed head, but I think she's the real power behind it. Because she basically orders him around, and he goes with it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So that feels like a weird power dynamic.
Jagger May:I I think they're yeah. Think they're CEO, like, co CEO. Yeah. Like, they're working together. That's just like I I just don't know.
Jagger May:Because that's why they fight like they do. Like, Luther ain't really fighting with anybody else. He's like, okay. You know? He's like, I'll kill you right fucking here
Jagger May:if you're not gonna do it.
Alfredo Brown:Luther's scary, by the way. He he's like the quiet scary person. It's not the same imposing thing you get from a Darth Vader, but he is he's quiet scary because you know that at any moment, if you just say the wrong thing, kinda like with Saw, where Saw is more outward with it, Luton is more inward with it. Whereas if just say the wrong thing, that's you're probably not gonna be in the next scene, buddy.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Did you notice how they framed his meeting with Lonnie when he comes out of the shadows? He looks straight up like a Sith Lord with, like, the high collar, all black, like, coming out of the shadows. I was waiting for
Jagger May:a fucking
Matthew Kopfhamer:red lightsaber. Yeah. I was waiting for a light red lightsaber to pop out at some point and him just be like, you know what? You've you've lost your usefulness. Yunk.
Jagger May:When I saw Bix take the drops, I'm like, Luthor's gonna kill her. And then, like, Luthor shows up next episode. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:The whole episode, I was
Jagger May:like, on edge. And I'm like and and maybe Bix, she's been kind of an OG, like, even longer than that Cassian's been. So, like, maybe there's something there where, you know, he really relies on her and cares a little bit. But it I mean, it makes you wonder. Like, the the whole time, I was just like, I've like, I think he may cut her loose because I thought he was sending Cassian away on this little thing that he could have done himself.
Jagger May:So just so he could handle it. You know?
Alfredo Brown:This this feels I I
Matthew Kopfhamer:I that was the initial plan. I think that was his plan, was to go check on her and make sure she wasn't too far gone and had to be cut loose. And then, like, he told Cassie in that. He was like, I was testing both of you just to see what would happen. And so I think and that's what then led to, like, basically the okay for them to attack Gorsch and let her get her com like, get her revenge on this fucking Nazi doctor.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So Do you think that was planned?
Jagger May:Like, the or or did you think they just did that on their own?
Matthew Kopfhamer:I think it was I think
Alfredo Brown:when she when
Matthew Kopfhamer:passing confronted him Mhmm. Giving them a bone. Yeah. That was that. Him being like, okay.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Do what you need to do to get right.
Alfredo Brown:So what I was gonna say is that this and this this example might alienate a few people. So there's another one I also have. But this feels very much like these are high school football players, and they have a coach that kinda doesn't really care about what happens to them after the fact. But he's just like, I really need to use you this week for this game and this mission and whatever it is. I get Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Like, like, I think all three of us get it. We all we all played high school football, and it's just like, once you graduate, your coach kinda doesn't give a
Matthew Kopfhamer:shit about you.
Alfredo Brown:Like, that's just what it was. Like, you were a piece. Right? And and that's, I guess, same thing for a lot of college players. Same thing for a lot of any any type of athletes.
Alfredo Brown:Soldiers, look at them as well. Like, I think this this transcends sport into into what we're talking about here. And this feels more like Luthan is the coach trying to just get all of his players to run the play. He wants to get every single ounce of usefulness out of them, and he still sees Bix as useful. I don't think that it's a thing where he has a soft spot for her and wants to see her do well.
Alfredo Brown:I don't see it as a father daughter thing. He says, you're one of my better soldiers. I need you to get your shit together. But he knows how to approach her properly. If he goes at her with that tone, it's not gonna work.
Alfredo Brown:So that's why I think he does the, you know, here's let's throw you a bone. Let's let's get you on this mission.
Jagger May:Literally do what you gotta do to help you sleep at night. Like, that's just like like, for real.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's what I
Jagger May:was Like, knowing
Matthew Kopfhamer:that because he knows. He's using them as weapons and as tools, and he knows that if you don't clean your weapons, eventually, they will break when you try to use them. So Good analogy. Mean, it's like it's like using a gun. Right?
Matthew Kopfhamer:You have to clean it after you use it, or eventually the buildup's gonna get there. It'll explode in your hand. So he is literally just going and making sure that hand. No. He's making sure that his weaponry is fit to use so that way next time he needs to call on them, they don't malfunction.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's exactly what he doesn't see them as people anymore. They are literally tools and weapons to him for the cause because that is the only goal in his mind is to take down the empire no matter the cost, no matter who gets hurt in the collateral. It's he he
Alfredo Brown:The sunrise is truly
Matthew Kopfhamer:the embodiment. Yeah. He is truly the embodiment of the ends justify the means.
Jagger May:And and and I now see that. Like, they always say that in movies, and you always feel good. After and one thing that you kinda brought up, Alfredo, like, they have time to let it marinate. They have time to let these characters grow. I believe it when they all they're all convinced.
Jagger May:Like, none of us are gonna make it. They've known for a long time. He's just like he's like and and he knows probably maybe even his own people kill him because he has to go that far to push him. And it's kind of like, I don't spoil like a book because a lot of people watch this show, but, like, one thing in there, it's like the whole plan, that's a big plot twist, is that they're all trying to usher in a future, but they're gonna kill themselves when it's over because they remember how things were, and then they end up being the viper. And we see this again.
Jagger May:We always bring up the black freighter becoming, like, the the very the very entity that you are fighting against because you're fighting fire with fire. And then I go and think about rogue one. Luton isn't in there. So it's like, to me, it's like, when? What happens with Bix?
Jagger May:What happens to some of these other people?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. That's that's what I kept remembering. I I that's what I kept remembering is in Rogue One, Cassian and Jain Orso end up having a little bit of a fling because Bix isn't there. So when does Bix exit stage left, so to speak, in this show? Is it gonna be the next arc, or is it gonna be the final arc?
Alfredo Brown:Was it a fling?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Felt more like a They
Alfredo Brown:shared experience. Like, nothing brings you together more like shared,
Matthew Kopfhamer:you know Like, trauma. Sure. But Yeah. There was there at the very end, there was, like, yeah, they're about to die, so they share a moment. But I feel like Cassian wouldn't do that if Bix is still around.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Sure. Yeah. But, Bylady, did you notice there's a a nice Easter egg that I saw in this? The the oh, yeah.
Alfredo Brown:That that too. But, the blaster that Bix is cradling when she's all drugged out, it's the same one that Cassian ends up using later to shoot Krennic in Rogue One and save Jin. Gotcha. If there wasn't already the the, you know, kind of the known fact that Bix probably doesn't make it through, I think that's it. And it's gonna be very representative.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Speaking of Easter eggs, did you notice on the little rhodonium thingy machine that they were working with? Like, there's a BD the BD one head as, like, the screen that they were looking at to line up the the drill from Speaking
Jagger May:of, you you think Homi's gonna make it from for for Saw? Yeah. Like, Willem
Matthew Kopfhamer:He's gonna die eventually. Willem, no.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, saw him in. He's got he's that crazy dude at a party. He's just like, huff this, man.
Jagger May:It'll make him strong. Yeah. I'm like, buddy, you don't look strong. Like, what the fuck is going on
Jagger May:with you? I know. He's over there.
Jagger May:Yes. Deceptions.
Jagger May:Deceptions. Deceptions.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. He's the dude at that party who's like, we're gonna play Russian roulette, but five chambers are gonna be full. Good luck. I love you guys. So that's one of my favorite memes now.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It's like, don't talk politics at the table.
Jagger May:Fifteen minutes later, more lies. Day, more
Matthew Kopfhamer:lies. More lies.
Jagger May:Oh god.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. But before we keep going on, I want to finally, finally talk about the winner that we have from our giveaway. We've been doing this for the last month. It has been the $200 Amazon gift card. All you had to do was leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify or leave a comment down below.
Alfredo Brown:Send that over to unbingedpod@Gmail.com. And the winner is Miguel Miranda. Miguel, congratulations. We are going to be emailing you that $200 virtual gift card. We thank you so much for your support, sir, and for everyone.
Alfredo Brown:It it was honestly, I don't say this lightly, it was legitimately hard to pick who was ending up winning this thing because there were so many fantastic reviews that you guys left, so many kind words. It honestly means a lot to us, And we read them all. We read them all. We talk about them all. And there was one that called us conventionally handsome, and it it made us feel pretty, pretty damn good that day.
Alfredo Brown:No, you get to know that you're like at least a seven. That's nice. Yeah. Feels good.
Jagger May:Feels good. Light seven. Just like
Jagger May:Light seven.
Alfredo Brown:So congrats, Miguel. And as always, just wanna, you know, encourage everybody, please. We're an independent podcast. We are still just starting out, you know, getting our our feet under us. So every single review helps a ton over on the audio side.
Alfredo Brown:And, we're gonna keep talking about Andor. We've got The Last of Us. It's gonna be more content throughout the summer. We've already talked about Severance, White Lotus, Black Mirror, Daredevil Born Again. So we're gonna keep that going.
Alfredo Brown:And then also, we're gonna be doing some non TV based content where we're just going to be doing some fun episodes. We're we're in the works of that right now, planning those out. All right, boys. I want to ask you guys a question. The most compelling character arc or character story so far belongs to who, Koff?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dude, there's so many. It's so hard to choose
Alfredo Brown:just one. Cassian and Bix. Let's Cyril and Dedra. Luthan, Mothma, Clea. Thank Probably not Willman and Saw because that that
Matthew Kopfhamer:seems like
Jagger May:a high forward.
Jagger May:I I gotta have a whole Cyril.
Jagger May:I I
Matthew Kopfhamer:don't wanna say Cyril because
Alfredo Brown:Let's go. I'm right there. I'm right there.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Let's go.
Alfredo Brown:I was hoping you'd say, let's go.
Jagger May:Thank you. That was
Matthew Kopfhamer:the Season one season one, you're like, god. This wet blanket, wet noodle of a human being. Like, I I wanted him to die horrifically. But then this season, we have seen kind of his evolution into, like, I don't even Soy Boy Betacuk number Like
Jagger May:Simpy Simps?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dead Dress Simps. Like, it's pretty fascinating. Because Not some pretty.
Alfredo Brown:Optimist Simps? Super,
Matthew Kopfhamer:super Simps.
Alfredo Brown:Simps time?
Matthew Kopfhamer:But honestly, on paper, when when they did the whole reveal of, like, oh, the resistance got his his classified file showing that ISB fucked him over in the past. On paper, you would think this is the perfect mark to join our resistance, and he plays that perfectly to fool them. And the entire time, he's actually in ISB's pocket because he has simp supreme for deed Deidre. And when Patagast or Panagra how the the main the main ISP guy gives him a compliment, and he better creams his yeah. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:When
Jagger May:he yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Exactly. Maester.
Matthew Kopfhamer:When he creams his jeans, he's like, if I say this is the best day of my life, will it ruin them all? Like, God. Calibrating Dude, I am eating this storyline up, especially when he goes back for a visit, essentially to see his mother, but it's so he can get the he can do the breakdown. And they're like, oh, we have an hour together. And Deej is like, turn the lights off.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I was like, oh, no. No. But he's relaxing.
Alfredo Brown:The lights on kinda gal.
Jagger May:No. It's a That's too fast.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fascinating television.
Jagger May:That's
Alfredo Brown:fair. She makes him turn around. Got it.
Jagger May:Got it. Got it. No.
Alfredo Brown:I got
Matthew Kopfhamer:Jack. On that bed. She saw him laying on that bed last episode and was like, I got ideas. No. I just his character is so fascinating to me, and I I don't know what the endgame is other than I think he's being set up as a patsy, and Deidre is gonna, like, throw him under the bus.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I think that's where it's leading to, especially with, you know, them being like, don't tell him the full story. So I I think he is enthusiastically walking himself into damnation.
Jagger May:And it's it's He ain't gonna make it off that planet.
Matthew Kopfhamer:No. I am blown away by these performances.
Jagger May:Deirdre's fucked up, man.
Matthew Kopfhamer:She yeah. I was
Alfredo Brown:saying this last episode. She's addicted to power. That's what it is. She's addicted she's addicted to ambition, and that's where it keeps taking her.
Jagger May:And and when I do
Matthew Kopfhamer:when she confronted the guy about access and he flips it around her, he's like, maybe at the assignment because I don't care about glory, I was like, damn. Okay. We're getting we're cooking with we're cooking with gas right now. This is this is fantastic. Because we're seeing the inner workings of how an organization like the ISB can actually function.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And it's terrifyingly real. Like, there are people who will do things because they believe in the cause so much. And then there are others that do things because they want the recognition and the power and the and the glory. So it's I I I don't I can't even praise this show enough for how they're they're showing all these different aspects.
Jagger May:And, again, I highly recommend reading Aftermath because it's right after the empire falls, and it it really covers all of that. Like, the empire gets so big where you have many kings everywhere. And in some sense, the Gormans, even though they're naive, they're correct in thinking that the ISB innocence is having its own shadow government. They're gonna do their own fucking thing because everyone ultimately is trying to suck the supreme wiener, which is, the emperor. And they're all trying to they're trying to work their way up the
Alfredo Brown:one of those words that's just gonna get me every time.
Jagger May:We need
Matthew Kopfhamer:every wiener. We need
Jagger May:Yeah. But it's in ISP, they have their own little kingdom, and and Deadra's trying to to to be the the the queen of it right now. And it's crazy. What I'll again, why this show is so different from other Star Wars is these people, this is real people and real people problems, where you've got Cyril's mommy issues, and Deidra, she's a orphan, like, straight up born and bred to be a fucking imperial snitch, essentially. That's just way too deep.
Jagger May:There's no way that someone as soft as Cyril could ever break through on that hard shell, and he's just being set up because he wants to make his new mommy proud. You notice how he calls his old mommy eaty now? He's he's he's giving her the hard e.
Alfredo Brown:She's mommy now. Tedra's mommy.
Jagger May:Yeah. And he and and again, with the fucking cereal and the milk, man, it's like, is there any other meal in that house?
Alfredo Brown:But you know
Matthew Kopfhamer:what it is? It's it's
Alfredo Brown:so many people. Yes. So many people, they just revert back to who they were. You go back home and see your parents and you revert back to that or you hang out with your high school friends and you revert back to being that high school kid so many times. I think that's just what it is with him, man.
Alfredo Brown:And I'm wondering because I I had this question. Maybe I'm alone in this question. Is there even a percentage of Cyril that could flip? Is there even the smallest purse or is he too far gone?
Jagger May:Thank you. He's too far gone. I knew he was a bitch when the Gormans told him that story. How could you hear that the people you work for just dropped down on a 500 per and it was so, like, to me, sincere that I'm a pretty cold motherfucker, but, you know, even I get teary eyed on there. And the fact that he could act and then not even blink.
Jagger May:He was he was ready to run to mommy. He, you know, he'd like, he was just ready to go tell somebody immediately what he just heard, that I knew he he would never make it out. Because for a second, I thought they could flip him. For a second, I thought they could.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But see, this is where that time jump makes so much sense. You have a year off screen that Deidre's been working Ciro probably for a year to get him ready for this role. And whatever way that is, like, I don't know. She gives me she gives off some serious, like, Madame Vandersex vibes from Eurotrip. So maybe she just broke him physically and spiritually to where he is ready to do whatever she says because
Alfredo Brown:Dendra
Matthew Kopfhamer:he was way he was way too enthusiastic. Like, I'm a spy now. Dendra's a total power top. She's a total power top. Let's just
Alfredo Brown:say She's position for sure.
Jagger May:Hundred percent.
Jagger May:She's got some she's got
Alfredo Brown:some Latina to her. Like, I'm not gonna lie. She's a little she's a little controlling. Like, I wouldn't be and I'm I'm I'm a Latino man, and I've got a Latino wife, okay, before I get the comments. She's
Jagger May:a she's got her
Matthew Kopfhamer:She's got some real
Jagger May:She's got
Matthew Kopfhamer:some real Argentinian vibes, if you know what I mean.
Jagger May:You guys are both know what you mean,
Matthew Kopfhamer:and you need to
Alfredo Brown:be careful with that.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Post 1945?
Jagger May:Let's I I'm not sure I get deported cock. Let's say that. No. I got it.
Alfredo Brown:There we go.
Jagger May:There we go. No.
Jagger May:You guys are both wrong. As someone who was raised by a German, in the worst way, I I saw my mom and, like,
Jagger May:we get
Jagger May:the itch, and I'm like, that's a that's that mean Eastern European where it's just like, she's too cold to be a teener, man. Yeah. She's she's got
Alfredo Brown:that agenda, though, man. Like, she's got that agenda. She puts her foot down. Like, I'm just surprised there's not, you know, an empire shaped flying across the room when she needs it. I don't know, man.
Jagger May:I'm surprised she don't got the ISB patch going on. You know? It's like, yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Might do a
Alfredo Brown:Dude, and and Cyril, just like, he did this, man. Like, it's it's funny because you always hear that you end up marrying someone that's like your parent. And his mom the the quote is so funny, man. The mother's terrifying.
Jagger May:Exactly. She's
Alfredo Brown:basically mama Palpatine. Like
Jagger May:I told you she's the worst thou. I said in last part, I was like I was like, she's gotta be the number two villain in the galaxy. Like, Palpatine, you can't top that. You can't top him.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What if
Jagger May:yeah. It it Wait a second.
Alfredo Brown:Wait a second. Let's do this. Let's who did? Because once again, spoilers. Rey is supposed to be the off the eventual offspring from Palpatine.
Alfredo Brown:Like, what if Edie what if that was his girl? Come on. Come on.
Jagger May:No. I don't want to
Alfredo Brown:a faces. Just saying.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I Cyril have to get
Jagger May:to say.
Alfredo Brown:The freak matches the freak.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Love child. Bro, Cyril is Palpatine's love
Alfredo Brown:matches the freak? I'm just saying.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I don't like Who
Alfredo Brown:who is Ray's dad?
Jagger May:Oh, no. I don't like it. I don't like it. Back back it up, Terry. Back it up.
Jagger May:Put it in reverse. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Put it
Jagger May:in reverse, Terry. Get that
Matthew Kopfhamer:shit out of here.
Jagger May:I I genuinely think
Alfredo Brown:You're disgusted because you know it's possible. That's what has you so upset. You're like, damn. There's a 1% chance.
Jagger May:Edie's womb is, like, the only evil entity that could hold something like that.
Alfredo Brown:Bro. So it's in hospital.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It's probably colder than the thugs. Exactly. Yo. She's colder than the hoth. Like, she's colder than hoth.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's that's what it comes down to.
Jagger May:Hey, yo. You genuinely feel sorry for Cyril because, like, homie never had a shot. He was either gonna be a school shooter or whatever the fuck he is now. Like, I I don't like I'm
Alfredo Brown:surprised he doesn't have the cereal and the milk separate. Like, that's kinda level of fucked up I was thinking. Like, in in Get Out when he's she's eating the cereal dry and drinking the milk in a separate glass. Yeah. That's I'm surprised he's not there.
Jagger May:Yep. He's just a a fucking weirdo. So, if whenever we do rankings again, E. D. Palpatine is going
Jagger May:He's up there. He's in the E. D. Card. You said it.
Jagger May:You said it. It's over.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What I'm interested do you think we'll ever have we met uncle Harlow yet? Has he what
Jagger May:I meant. Like, who is uncle Harlow?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Was he in because I would think it'd be I think it'd be hilarious if, like, a Jack Kelly type character popped up as uncle Harlow.
Jagger May:That'd be fantastic. It's it's it's always sunny, and Charlie has a pedophile uncle. Yeah. Anyway
Alfredo Brown:Not great.
Matthew Kopfhamer:We're lawyers.
Jagger May:To I've had a hot take that I gotta share with you guys.
Alfredo Brown:Do it. Fire it.
Jagger May:Is Cassian better than Han Solo, man?
Alfredo Brown:Oh my god. Okay. Yes. I was thinking this last episode. I wanted to say it, but I didn't think we were there yet, and I needed this to marinate.
Alfredo Brown:And this is why I asked actually, I asked this last episode. Is is Cassian the best non force using character? Because I think a lot of us
Matthew Kopfhamer:think of
Alfredo Brown:the okay. Fuck off.
Jagger May:Go ahead. Shove past that
Jagger May:one. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:A lot of people like, was asked this the other day, who's your favorite character? And I it was I mean, Han Solo seems to be the favorite, but Cassian, just as a character, there's so much more depth there to him. And Han Solo
Matthew Kopfhamer:almost just gets to be
Alfredo Brown:yeah. Very in the sky. Very in
Matthew Kopfhamer:the sky.
Alfredo Brown:But, like, Han just gets to be the funny quippy guy over and over and over. Like, he's he's the cool eighties guy from high school, whereas, like, Cassidy Ford.
Jagger May:Let's just say it. Yeah. Okay. Played himself all through the eighties. You know?
Jagger May:Indiana Jones, who's that? Worked. Yeah. It's Hansel with a whip. I'm not shitting on it.
Jagger May:Like, you said, worked. It was just great, but, like, it's just you know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Cassy note. It's it's a single note.
Jagger May:This show's done
Matthew Kopfhamer:something incredible. Multiple of layers. Yeah. He shows off variety of skills, and he can be he's a chameleon. He can literally adapt to any situation, which makes him so fun to watch.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Would be
Jagger May:no yes. There there would be no Han shot first. Like, Cassian would take the pistol and pistol whip Han and be like, here's why you a bitch. Because, like, like, straight up, he went to, like, a French rebellion. Bitch.
Jagger May:Yeah. He went to a
Jagger May:French rebellion, and he looked around. Babies. Yeah. Cassian's not letting his son kill him. I'm a say that.
Jagger May:He was there forty five minutes and was just like, it smell like bitch in here.
Jagger May:Like, like, right away. You know? Just straight up, dude. Like
Matthew Kopfhamer:This is a bunch of rank amateurs. Not worth my time. Y'all gotta get yourselves killed and then walks away.
Jagger May:Love it. Homie's been in just this season in two separate, like, whatever the fuck rebellion sectors. One of them, he was in cuffs, and he's just like, y'all ain't shit. He's just like, it's about to rain in here. Y'all look hungry.
Jagger May:Water.
Jagger May:Yeah. Just like he's just like, alright.
Alfredo Brown:About that? Gorman does the same thing. He's like, no. These people, they're not they're not ready to play, coach. Like, you just gotta keep them on the bench.
Jagger May:Yeah. You got amateur hour following
Alfredo Brown:me back there. They prove it in one mission.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. Someone gets shot.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fucking Sam bastard. Like, they said no blasters. And what does
Jagger May:he do? Pulls out a stupid fucking blaster. What an idiot. Yeah, dude. And it's, it's been literally, I think, with within this arc, you know, it was, like, what, a week, let's say, span, and they fucked around and found out real quick what happens in a rebellion, and if you aren't prepared.
Jagger May:And it's just like, again, they he tried to tell both Luthin and, the Gormans what was what. And I just yeah. And and, like, to to give Hunt credit, I mean, he's totally a fucking himbo, man. He ain't gonna be they made him a general, and I think that's like I don't think he would ever be making They
Alfredo Brown:just ran out of people. Yeah. Dude, they ran out of They
Matthew Kopfhamer:were they were tossing around
Alfredo Brown:general positions to everyone. Yeah. Tom, Luke, Leia, you three, you helped us the first movie. You're all generals now.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yep. If Cassine
Matthew Kopfhamer:was around, you'd be like,
Jagger May:thanks, baby girls. Like like, that's a cool ship. I need you to go, I I like my blue milk chilled.
Jagger May:I like my
Alfredo Brown:blue milk chilled.
Jagger May:I thought episode two was the best because it showed the parallel of, like, of Andor literally saying, he's like, all these people following you, they're just drawing attention. And even even sippy McSnitch figured it out. Like, when you got the world's the the the biggest cuck in the known universe figuring it out, you should to me, it should it should be a massive red flag. Yeah. It's like, there's a reason why y'all make clothes and not weapons.
Jagger May:Know? Just like
Matthew Kopfhamer:I did love how throughout that we saw Ciro catching his tail and catching, like, they're spying on me, the people in the office. Like, god, that was so brilliant how they were able to make me question. Because at first, I was like, okay. Is he because you're right, Jack. There is a second where, like, okay.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Maybe he's gonna sympathize and actually fall into, like, okay. These people actually deserve autonomy and help, and the empire is wrong. But then it's like, nope. He just wants that praise for mommy. So I I god.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I can't praise this show enough with the writing. This is incredible.
Alfredo Brown:I think I think Cyril might need to be on a on a watch here because one, I don't think he makes it out of this show, but I don't think it's because of someone else. I think he ends it himself. I think he figures out that Deidre is turning on him.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Using him.
Alfredo Brown:And setting him up. You got two moppies that disappointed in you? What else do you have left to live for?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Did you have job that you
Alfredo Brown:have loved? The people you have loved?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Do you think he's gonna take dead drops and then himself? Like
Alfredo Brown:No. I wouldn't be surprised if he try if he's if he it's well, kamikaze is some sort of empire mission going on there.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Like, he can't
Jagger May:put a whole pile of drops in his cereal and just, like, yeah. He
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. So get the ride in. Just let his skin burn off.
Jagger May:That's fucked up.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Too much. Too much. Reel it in. Reel it in.
Alfredo Brown:I had a question because maybe I just I wasn't paying enough attention to it. What was what was up with the codec towards the end there that, Klaya, where she's trying to turn that
Matthew Kopfhamer:The braille the braille statue?
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah. Star Wars braille. Brush it.
Alfredo Brown:It had a touch it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So that had a listening device hidden inside of it. And because of the reappraisal of all they they found one forgery from a different dealer. He got super pissed off. He's like, I'm gonna reappraise everything. So they knew that eventually when that piece got reappraised, were gonna find the listening device and figure out
Alfredo Brown:There it is.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Okay. That Luthans connected to the somehow. So she had to go and remove the listening device. She used Lonnie as a human shield essentially to block the view of what she was doing under the guise of, like, I'm showing him how this, my favorite piece from the collection. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Yeah. That's what he doing.
Jagger May:And he was helping her unlock it because, like, like, obviously, they
Alfredo Brown:hands up here.
Jagger May:Yeah. Yeah. And then you wanna talk about Cyril. That's the dummy that's the dummy mommy that you should follow there. Like, Clea is just like she's like, what are you gonna do?
Jagger May:Whatever it takes. Like, she's not even, like won't even fucking hesitate. That's so gangster, man. Like, like Even with with Klayya Lokey.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That was insane.
Alfredo Brown:Klayya Dedra.
Matthew Kopfhamer:The tension in that scene was Jeff's kiss. Mhmm. Because
Alfredo Brown:Clea versus Dedra.
Matthew Kopfhamer:In my seat.
Alfredo Brown:No holds barred.
Jagger May:Clea.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Clea. Clea. She'll pull a knife out of somewhere that Dedra doesn't expect and gank her.
Jagger May:Dedra, she she pushes chess pieces around, whereas Clea is in them trenches. Like, you know, like, exactly like Koff. You she'll probably have a a blade hidden in her upper skirt or something ready to go.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Clea is not above using pocket sand. I'll put it that way.
Jagger May:Mhmm. For real. For real. Deirdre ain't even ready. She she go pull out a rule book.
Jagger May:She's like, well, what what are the terms to this fight?
Jagger May:This is in a while.
Alfredo Brown:She pulls out a white glove and slaps her
Jagger May:on basis.
Jagger May:Exactly. Yo. It's like
Matthew Kopfhamer:Robin Hood Men of Tights where Clea just pulls a gauntlet out and slaps her back.
Jagger May:It's funny how it's like, how we won the revolutionary war. It's kind of the same thing.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Gorilla war tactics.
Jagger May:Gorilla tactic. Yeah. It's just like, you guys fight with no honor. You won't line up in a straight line in
Matthew Kopfhamer:the Where's your drummer boy? Yeah. Where's your drummer boy with the Well, now I
Alfredo Brown:have to ask. Naturally, it's going around. One gorilla or a hundred Kleis?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh. Hunt. Well,
Jagger May:about 10 Kleis, dog.
Jagger May:10. I think 10 versus
Matthew Kopfhamer:because the gorilla the gorilla's gonna see an empty arena, and then all a sudden, see Claire just pop out of bushes on top, get him. Mhmm. Yep. I'm I'm having a hard time. It's the question.
Alfredo Brown:Versus a hundred men thing.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It's it's a question.
Alfredo Brown:Like,
Matthew Kopfhamer:you feels so easy, man.
Alfredo Brown:To say, yeah, a hundred dudes win. That's it.
Jagger May:If a hundred dudes can't kill a gorilla, we deserve to die. We deserve we're so cooked. You're yeah. We are so fucking cooked. Like, I'm not saying the three of us are gonna go out there and, you know, square up.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Meet you guys at the zoo.
Jagger May:Oh, no.
Matthew Kopfhamer:If it's the three of us, I'm turning around and letting YouTube deal with it while I try to find a way out. Like, hell no.
Jagger May:I'm gonna kick that dude straight in the nuts. I know you got him just like the rest of us. Go, what? Right up in there.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Then catches your leg and tears it off, and then you're fucked. Yeah.
Jagger May:Hey. At least I died kicking.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'm doctor That's what
Alfredo Brown:my wife says. She
Jagger May:died kicking?
Alfredo Brown:No. She did because because I'm always like, well, what do you do in this situation? She's like, oh, I'm gonna kick him as hard as I can. I can kick. And I'm like, you're you're gonna get fucking killed.
Alfredo Brown:And she's like, well, I'm gonna go down kicking. They know that. I'm like, alright. Take your pride to your grave. That's cool.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You're you're gonna be kick you're gonna
Jagger May:be catching these Nike SBs writing them teeth,
Alfredo Brown:By the way, just wanna shout out Star
Jagger May:Wars. Tony
Alfredo Brown:Gilroy, and this show has done a a lot of firsts that we haven't had. The first one being I mean, not a a cool thing to see, but almost a necessary thing to see with sexual assault in in the first three episodes. And then in this one, we get two same sex people sharing a kiss, which, however you feel about it, is something that is different and groundbreaking for Star Wars television, for Star Wars movies. And, honestly, it's just real. It's real, and I'm glad that they did it.
Alfredo Brown:It's not, you know, characters being pushed off to the back. It's showing that there are different characters in this massive galaxy. So I just want quick props to Tony Gilroy and the whole team that was doing this show because they weren't afraid to face challenges head on with each of these archives.
Jagger May:And to give them credit,
Matthew Kopfhamer:they did a good
Jagger May:job where it doesn't feel like it's forced in there to, like, say something. We just give a shit about these characters. You know? Yes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But then they had to do the Hollywood trope of killing one of lesbians after the after the kiss. So you know?
Alfredo Brown:Well, I think I I think it's gonna be anyone you care about in this show. Once you start to care more and more about them, like that's why, like, Bix, your clock's running, girl, because we're all starting to fall in love with you more and more.
Jagger May:Like, she
Matthew Kopfhamer:got her revenge, and now her story her loop is is pretty much closed now that she got her revenge. And so now she's gonna be the plot device to move Cassian's story forward. Yep. We're gonna care a little bit more about Willman.
Alfredo Brown:And then Saw's gonna him.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Bam. Blast him.
Alfredo Brown:All all leading to us caring so much about Andor.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Could you tell that Lundy from the get was a like, he was a Impero spy? Because I clocked as soon
Jagger May:as was introduced.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I was like Plutie? Plutie. Whatever his name was.
Jagger May:I'll never forget that name. It was so it sound like Flutie Whitaker made up a name, like, on the spot.
Jagger May:This is Plutie.
Alfredo Brown:It it sounded like one of those things where he didn't actually know his name, and he just he was just like, fuck I'm gonna call you Plutie.
Jagger May:It's like, hey, Thor. Nope. You're Plutie.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Thor, his name is Samuel. No. This is Plutie. Plutie. Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:As soon as he got introduced, was like, something's off about him. Like, there's no way, like, he was gonna be not a fuck boy.
Jagger May:And I'm not gonna lie, man. As, like, they kinda have, like, drug dealer rules. I mean, meaning, like, you ask a question three two or three too many times, man. You're like, you a fucking snitch. Because, like, for real, like, it's very they don't play around with that.
Jagger May:They're like like, they make eye contact like, fucking questions. Shut the fuck up. It's not like, hey, man. I'm not super comfortable bringing that up. No.
Jagger May:They're straight up. Shut the fuck up. And then you're gonna ask a third time? You know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:I mean, he tried to play it cool where he's like, look. There's too many variations to remember. I just need to remember the one. It's like, sounds reasonable, but no. No.
Matthew Kopfhamer:No. No. But
Jagger May:he asked for a location. If he would've just said that, like, give me some like,
Jagger May:I don't
Jagger May:need to know the location. Just give me one variation, and I'll nail it. Then that would've it was just like the way he kept digging. I'm because literally, I was just you kept seeing him touch the stove or whatever. Like, he was a little kid who kept fucking with Harambe.
Jagger May:You know? It's just
Matthew Kopfhamer:See? And that's how I know girl gonna win. References this episode. That's how I know the girl is gonna win because he's doing it for Harambe. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. I think that's gonna be a wrap for us on this one. We're gonna be back again on Sunday. We're gonna be giving you guys our review. We're gonna do two.
Alfredo Brown:Okay? We're gonna do a spoiler free review of the movie Thunderbolts, and then we're gonna give you the full spoiler discussion and breakdown in our review of the movie Thunderbolts. We're all gonna go catch that this weekend. We're all different places, but, know, we're getting out to the movie theater. It's gonna be my first trip to the movie theater in my new city that I live in.
Alfredo Brown:I'm excited. I'm excited. Movie theater.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You should've seen guys.
Alfredo Brown:I should have, man. I'm still dying to go watch it.
Jagger May:It's Alfredo's spot. We didn't cover it. Me and Matt did Matt watched it twice. He was a fucking MVP. So if you like, you do coach juniors.
Jagger May:No. William Alfredo. We're not gonna blame women on this spot.
Jagger May:That's fair. That's fair.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. We're gonna be back again on Sunday with our reviews of Thunderbolts and then on Monday with the review of Last of Us. As always, wanna thank you guys for watching or listening all the way through for myself, for calling for Jagger. We'll see you next time. Adios.
Jagger May:Andor is so good, man. It's so fucking good.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. It's just gonna be forty minutes of us going, oh,
Jagger May:it's so good.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Just glazing. Glazing at heart. It's it's hard not to. Like, I was fucking blown away. At the end of episode five, right after Saw does his whole monologue, and Willem is like, alright.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I guess I'm gonna breathe the poison gas too. That shit fucking slaps so hard.
Jagger May:I gotta save all my I gotta, yeah, I gotta save all my comments. I'm hot right now. I'm riding a high. We pull the big
Alfredo Brown:daddy time. Mhmm. We pull the big daddy every time. We wasted the good surprise on you. We do that all the time.
Alfredo Brown:We waste our good points before the show starts.
Jagger May:Yeah. It's like I left a meeting where my boss told me I was right. I cannot waste this high.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Oh my god. Jagger is even lucky it's
Alfredo Brown:got a standing it might need to be a standing desk
Jagger May:right now.
Alfredo Brown:Is Jack's about to convert
Matthew Kopfhamer:it into a standing desk. We see his camera rise up. He's gonna see it.
Jagger May:You deserve.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Is Vignesh joining or no? No. He's he's he's got a fucking kid.
Jagger May:A house of learning doctors.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That's no excuse. Having children. So selfish. Having kids. You wanna you wanna duplicate yourself?
Matthew Kopfhamer:So selfish.
Alfredo Brown:Why can't this kid take care of himself already?
Matthew Kopfhamer:For real. What is he, like, four months old? He should be able to feed and water himself or whatever.
Jagger May:Hit him. You know Feed
Alfredo Brown:and water himself is great.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Hit him
Jagger May:with the step up stepbrothers. Like, what's this guy's deal?
Alfredo Brown:Are Bonita fish big?
Matthew Kopfhamer:They're what's called a prized fish. So yes.
Alfredo Brown:I I don't know.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Don't blame Dale for ruining the story and possibly the evening. Fucking motherfucker.
Alfredo Brown:Honey, Dane Cook, pay per view, twenty minutes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Twenty minutes. Let's go.
Alfredo Brown:Gabby was asking me about, like we were talking about best comedies from, like, that era, and I listed Step Brothers, and that was the line that I chose from Step Brothers. And she's like, that's a really weird one to pick out of that movie. And I was just like, you know what? I feel like those are the ones that still stand out to me. Like, I still love the it's okay that mine's not movie quality.
Alfredo Brown:Yep.
Jagger May:That that's stuff I use in everyday conversation. Because, like, for real, when I tell like, I'll be drunk or something, and then I'm ready to go, and Amy's, the driver. I'll be like, Amy,
Jagger May:take some type of review. I
Alfredo Brown:still do that shit all the time, and Gabby's like, what? And I was like, you know, we're stepbrothers. It's really funny. Don't worry.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'll hit people with, you're gonna love the neighborhood. Everybody recycles and fertilizes.
Alfredo Brown:Really don't set up here. It's pretty fresh out front.
Jagger May:You could just say it's good. I've never seen them with dead bodies. I've never felt more steam.
Jagger May:Because it was that it was like how they showed up white because, like, that's how I do. And then, like, as soon as something bad happens, your your real accent comes out. You're real. Exactly. Like, I I give Billy Musio credit.
Jagger May:He's a very good cook. And I didn't know he went to culinary school because I literally said with my real accent, I'm like I was like, man, this nigga did this
Jagger May:nigga Billy could cook. I was like, Jesus. And Billy's like, what? And I was
Jagger May:just like, that's the highest compliment I could get.
Alfredo Brown:I love that real Jack turns into Terrence Howard from hustle and flow. Man.
Jagger May:Alright. That's alright.
Matthew Kopfhamer:That was good.
Alfredo Brown:I think we're
Jagger May:ready. Think we're ready.
