On today's episode of the unBinged podcast, we're breaking down our top 12 most anticipated movies for the summer, and we're gonna rank these by putting them into a bracket and having these movies go head to head. And we're gonna give our opinions on which movies we are most excited for. All that and more on an all new episode of Unbringed starting now. We've got our bracket. We've got our 12 movies.
Alfredo Brown:And, honestly, I don't wanna list them ahead of time. Let's just jump into the matchups that we have here, and we're gonna have it's a single elimination. Each movie is seated in terms of, honestly, just I looked around online and saw what the excitement level was from all the various websites and the way they ordered them and stuff. So let's jump into these matchups. The first one, we wanna start at the top, the eight versus nine seed.
Alfredo Brown:Okay. How to train your dragon versus ballerina from the John Wick universe. Where are we at with this? Because I'm a sucker for how to train your dragon. I love the music.
Alfredo Brown:I love the movies. I love everything about it. But the John Wick stuff is also so damn cool. And these both feel like movies where it's like, do we really need either of these? I I don't quite know.
Jagger May:That's a great that's a great way to put it because, like, I'm one John Wick behind, not because I don't like it. It's just that, like, my my significant other doesn't like it. Therefore, I need, like, a special jag time, like, I'm about to pop on porn to watch John Wick.
Alfredo Brown:Please, I I need you to make sure that you enunciate that your name is Jagger, and you were saying JAG with a g.
Jagger May:Yeah. My name is JAG as in, like, Jagger May time. Special me time.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You're doing JAG time? This is JAG time.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah.
Jagger May:I'm not Okay. I'm not a you know?
Alfredo Brown:Welcome back to
Jagger May:the show, Vic. Yeah. I'm not jerking the gherkin to, to bullet, like, to to gun foo. You know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:But Anonymous.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Anyway, Reel it in. Reel it in.
Jagger May:Anyway, I think I'm excited for new rather than DreamWorks. Like, you know what I'm worried about is that DreamWorks is gonna see this, and they're like, fuck. Yeah. Let's go full Disney live action Shrek. Here we go.
Jagger May:Oh. Yeah. Exactly. Like like, that's slippery slope.
Alfredo Brown:Action Shrek would be awful. Can you think
Vignesh Doraiswamy:of anything we need less than a live action Shrek?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Shrek on ice.
Alfredo Brown:A live action a live action how to train your dragon. That's really what we need less than. I mean, I'm with Jagger, man. I'm tired, guys. Can you, like, stop giving me live action stuff with the same stuff that we've seen again and again?
Alfredo Brown:It's gonna be great. It might be heart wrenching. Maybe there's gonna be a twist we don't expect. But give me something new, man. And and that's why I wanna see ballerina.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Not just because it's like Lance Reddick's last time I think we're gonna see him on screen, but you get Ian McShane back. You get a little bit of John Wick. I just love the world building and the universe. Did we need another John Wick?
Alfredo Brown:I don't know. But Anna D'Armas has shown us she can really nail the action sort of hero role. We loved her in James Bond. I thought she stole the show for a little bit that she was there. I, like, have absolutely zero interest.
Alfredo Brown:I have a kid now. Right? I'm supposed to enjoy this, but I do not wanna see how to
Alfredo Brown:You have an infant. That kid doesn't know what they're watching. Take take him to ballerina. He'll love it.
Alfredo Brown:Absolutely. I probably will. Right? So yeah. So I my vote here is ballerina.
Alfredo Brown:I want something that's gonna be at least give me something new. And and, honestly, you know, I love the world building. I think that's what made John Wick such a cool hit. Right? Like, the action was great, but really this, like, sense of intrigue and mystery.
Alfredo Brown:I'm like, what is the secret world of assassin?
Alfredo Brown:So that's what I'm hearing. And it's very
Jagger May:unique because it's not just like a Jason Statham. You know, we're gonna make crank four, you know? Like, there's,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:like, an actual fucking universe with with, like, a plot. You know?
Alfredo Brown:I just love that Jason Statham's the same character in every every I saw a trailer for the beekeeper the other day. It's just a noble. Just watch this whole thing.
Jagger May:Yes.
Alfredo Brown:But it's him in a beekeeper costume. You don't know anything about him, and it's just it's just perfect, Jason Statham, stewed to perfection.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yep. You know, I'm I'm really glad that Vignesh is back for this episode because I was really on the fence over which movie like, this is a a closer matchup for me than I expected. So I'm really glad that Vignesh went before me because he convinced me that, yeah, I think I'm more excited for ballerina for the exact reasons he listed. Brand new twist on a story we've we've seen already a little bit instead of just a live action remake, which I always am kind of against, you know, in per just in principle. So I'm I'm definitely gonna give it a nod to ballerina this round.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. I'm putting in the scores here, guys. The winner is ballerina. Moving on to the next round to go up against Superman. And listen.
Alfredo Brown:I'm I'm the same way with ballerina here. We're getting something that's original. The how to train your dragon stuff, as much as I love those movies, I actually have there's still, the the inner child in me loves that world and even what they did at epic universe, the theme park, and all that. Like, it's it's cool. It's definitely cool.
Alfredo Brown:It's great to be immersed in that, but we've been on this ride before with Disney, and we've watched all these same live action things. And, like, the Lion King live action was the exact same movie with, like, three different lines or jokes here and there. Mhmm. I just don't want the same thing over and over and over being regurgitated. So I'm with you guys on that.
Jagger May:Alright. We might get a live action puss in boots with Pedro Pascal. That'll sell.
Alfredo Brown:It's not the worst idea. It's not the worst idea. Oh my god. I'm in. I'm in.
Alfredo Brown:DreamWorks. Take my money. God. Puss in Boots, man. They're, Ryan Coogler said that he based the villains and sinners off of the villain from Puss and Boots.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Puss and Boots has some weight. I'm just saying.
Matthew Kopfhamer:The wolf?
Alfredo Brown:The wolf. It's a wolf. Yeah. A wolf. By the way A wolf.
Alfredo Brown:The the audience, the consensus audience disagrees with us. 59% said how to train your dragon should have moved on. But it's not your show. Get your
Jagger May:own podcast. Is. There's so many dudes that,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:like, I ain't gonna watch that.
Alfredo Brown:It's a dancing movie.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Yeah. Get out of
Alfredo Brown:here. Yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I'm gonna watch a real man's movie, how to train your dragon.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dragged? Tingling. Cool. Yeah. That's cool shit.
Jagger May:They are.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Next matchup we have here, predator killer of killers. This is an animated film, which to me, the animation reminds me so much of Blue Eyed Samurai. And the action is cool, and the premise is cool where you've just got the predator throughout almost looking like throughout time and just various It's it's solid analogy. Going up against some of the best and worst and craziest killers of all time.
Alfredo Brown:And, yes, I am in on that. Anything where villains of sorts are getting their just desserts, like, I am all about that satisfaction. On the other side, we've got final destination bloodlines, which, I mean, for you gore fans, it's the creme de la creme for the people who just love to be anxious for about ninety minutes. You're right in there as well. They had some really good Final Destination movies.
Alfredo Brown:They started to fall off a bit. And the early reviews
Jagger May:on good Final Destination movies.
Alfredo Brown:I like the first one and the third one.
Jagger May:Okay.
Alfredo Brown:What? Don't don't don't that's what my wife does. Okay? Don't just say okay. Like, what do you what do you mean?
Alfredo Brown:What do you mean?
Jagger May:It's I'm I get you said it. I'm not a gore fan. I am a whore fan. You know me. I like stuff like that.
Jagger May:But, like, don't be killing just to be killing. Like, summon That's
Alfredo Brown:the movie.
Jagger May:Do, like, summon a demon. Do something. You know? Like, it's just
Matthew Kopfhamer:I mean, you could argue that
Jagger May:death a No. One death
Matthew Kopfhamer:They summon death by escaping death. I mean whatever. Okay.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Look. Look look at how hard you have
Matthew Kopfhamer:to do Regardless, my pick's gonna be predator because, a, it's not only gonna be a cool it's by Dan Trachtenberg. So he did prey, and prey was fantastic. If you haven't seen it, it's on Hulu.
Alfredo Brown:It's So good.
Matthew Kopfhamer:It's phenomenal. Oh my god. So the fact that he was able to do this, he did he did this in secret, basically, as he was also doing predator badlands, which comes out in November, which is gonna be live action. This is kind of designed as a prequel to set up Badlands, if I'm not mistaken. Regardless, though, this is gonna be fantastic animation like Alfredo mentioned.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And anything with predator, I'm there for. Like, I am a sucker for predator for aliens. You you have those separate or together, and I'm I'm I'm my ass is in the seat.
Alfredo Brown:We're getting a lot of predator lore. We're getting a lot of alien lore. And I've also read the articles where they say, like, hey. You know what? You guys are gonna be getting another alien versus predator, but you're not gonna know it.
Alfredo Brown:It's just gonna pop up in a movie, and we're we're just gonna Trojan horse it. You guys will have
Vignesh Doraiswamy:no idea.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Badlands, I bet. Badlands, I bet. My bet.
Jagger May:Oh, that'll be good. What's funny that they're doing this, I hated alien and predator. I didn't understand alien when I was young. Like, when we were kids, a like, AVP just came out, and I'm like, this is dog shit. And it was like a very bad introduction for
Alfredo Brown:kids But I love predator.
Jagger May:Yeah. Mean, the the best thing was Walton Goggins in one of them where he's just like, as soon as I get off this planet, I'm gonna do so much cocaine. I don't know
Vignesh Doraiswamy:why I don't know why that line lives in my head forever. I wonder.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. So it sounds like we've got already two votes for predator killer killers. Vig, where are you at?
Alfredo Brown:Yeah, man. Same thing. I'm not gonna add too much to what y'all said besides, I think killer killer it's we are in the golden age of animation as Jagger likes to say. Third floor is the group that is working on the animation for this. They've done all sorts of stuff from, like, Godzilla, Kong, RRR, like Indian blockbuster, Shang Chi, a lot of like the Marvel stuff.
Alfredo Brown:So I just I want great animation. We don't have a lot of that listed here, so I think that's really the easy answer for me. And honestly, I just I I don't really care about Final Destination anymore, man. I don't know that I ever really did. I think the idea that death is just like unstoppable force rather than like this, you know, slasher horror gore is is kinda nice, but like, we know the story.
Alfredo Brown:We've seen it before. They're gonna have a premonition. They're gonna escape their death. Not really. They're all gonna die.
Alfredo Brown:Like I just fine. You make it creative, but I've seen it a ton of times. I'm not that excited about it. If the reviews are out of this world, then yeah, maybe I'll go check it out. But like, I have zero
Alfredo Brown:reviews watching
Alfredo Brown:this movie.
Jagger May:I mean, I'll just go watch a a Rube Goldberg machine YouTube channel.
Alfredo Brown:That's what this is.
Jagger May:It just pretends that Rube Goldberg actually.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Next matchup on here, we've got the seven seed Mission Impossible, the final reckoning and the 10 seed weapons. Now, Mission Impossible, the final reckoning is supposed to be the last movie in the Mission Impossible series for anyone that saw allegedly. Like Tom Cruise just said today that they're working on Top Gun three. And listen, Tom Cruise has done some stuff that I've really enjoyed throughout his career.
Alfredo Brown:But now it's getting a little fast and furious. We're like, maybe we don't need eight, nine iterations of the same thing over and over. Like, it's just it is getting a little too repetitive. If you saw dead reckoning, that movie was not very good. I don't have a lot of confidence in Final Reckoning, which early reviews for this are not great.
Alfredo Brown:I'm excited to see weapons because this is one of the few horror movies that I'm looking forward to because of the track record of this director. I know you guys are gonna talk more on it. So my vote's going to be for weapons. Where are you guys at?
Jagger May:Yeah, dude. Like, I do not care about Mission Impossible anymore. Like, they were they had a good run there for a little bit. And then like you said, it they felt like, look who we just welcomed to the family. We got Rebecca Ferguson.
Jagger May:That's right. Lisan Al Gayed's mom. You know? Like, they're
Vignesh Doraiswamy:just gonna start recruiting other people to be in these Mission Impossible. It's like like, look.
Jagger May:We got mister Milchick now. I was like
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. And they got him. Hannah Waddingham from Ted Lasso. Rebecca from Ted Lasso is in it. Like, they they just they went out, they got all the big TV stars, and they're look.
Alfredo Brown:We're keeping this relevant for everyone. We're hitting the four quadrants. We're doing it.
Jagger May:Mhmm.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yep. Hard to remember the last the last Mission Impossible I saw, and I'm not a big Tom Cruise fan. So I'm probably gonna stick entirely.
Jagger May:The yeah. Oh, yeah. That
Alfredo Brown:that that was the one. The Armcox?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Saw I've seen the clip on, like, YouTube and TikTok, but I haven't seen the movie. So I haven't so, yeah, I haven't I I don't know the last Mission Impossible movie I've seen. But weapons is intriguing. Like, this seems like a pretty new premise. Like, we have kids disappearing and somehow Just
Alfredo Brown:Naruto running out the front door?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Who knows?
Alfredo Brown:I've seen that trailer.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But the cast cast looks spectacular. So I I trust, like you said, the director, the the cast looks stacked. I'm I'm excited to see it.
Jagger May:I I'm I'm guessing I'm maybe vague because we watched some of same stuff. Am I the only one who's seen the widest kids you know?
Alfredo Brown:No, man. That's what I like, Zach Krueger. That's what was gonna talk about. Was gonna talk about that as barbarian, and, you know, I just think is it Krueger Krueger? I don't know to tell you.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Krueger Krueger.
Alfredo Brown:I'm gonna watch this for Zach Krueger because, he's done some great stuff before. I I thought barbarian was different, and there was a reason why it was so well received. And, again, this is just a different premise, something different. I'm not even, the biggest mystery horror guy on the planet, but this is intriguing. It looks it looks to be something fun and unique, and there's a great track record.
Alfredo Brown:And I'm always here for a good Josh Brolin Benedict Wong movie. You know? That's all
Alfredo Brown:I got.
Alfredo Brown:I'm not, like, I'm not extraordinarily excited by this movie to tell you the truth. But if there's something I'm even less excited by, it's another mission impossible.
Jagger May:Yeah. Or final destination. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Or final destination. Actually, that's true.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fun fact, Josh Brolin took over for Pedro Pascal, who's a real
Alfredo Brown:Pedro Pascal.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Weapons. But because of fantastic four, Pedro had to back out of weapons, and Josh Brolin took his place.
Jagger May:So Awesome.
Alfredo Brown:Funnel of We should almost
Jagger May:do a reverse bracket where we go the other way where, like, what's the worst fucking movie that's gonna come out?
Alfredo Brown:You should fucking know.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Like, what do I hate the most? Final Destination or
Alfredo Brown:Looking at you, Freakier Friday. Yeah. Freakier Friday. Did that even make the list?
Alfredo Brown:Oh my
Jagger May:god. Was mad Alfredo suggested it. I was like It
Alfredo Brown:was it's just there. It exists. I don't know. I was like, shit. To make this I wanted to make it no.
Alfredo Brown:It shouldn't. It shouldn't. I mean, I'll I'll watch Jamie Lee Curtis, but no. I don't Okay. I don't I don't need another one of those.
Alfredo Brown:By the way, we, were way off when it comes to the Mission Impossible Love. We are definitely in the minority here. The votes, 82% of the votes are more excited to watch Mission Impossible than Weapons. I think, once again, I think it's just a thing that
Vignesh Doraiswamy:a lot
Matthew Kopfhamer:of people
Alfredo Brown:don't know what Weapons is. Yeah. I think there's a lot of people that aren't as into horror. So Yeah. Fair.
Alfredo Brown:Get your own podcast.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And Mission Impossible at this point is an institution in the in the theaters. So you got them the whole Midwest, like, oh, Tom Cruise. Love him.
Jagger May:Like, the same people who are excited about Ben and Prie are, like,
Vignesh Doraiswamy:ready to why they sell, Mickey Mouse? Oh, let's
Alfredo Brown:go watch. Let's go watch Tom You know who wants Slimmer Ducks? You remember Scientology? This got to a weird place pretty quick. Pretty quick.
Alfredo Brown:It's a good segue. It's the next matchup.
Matthew Kopfhamer:All my impressions are terrible.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That's right. I forgot I
Alfredo Brown:forgot that your your Viola Davis sounds like Richard Nixon, and then just everyone from the Midwest sounds like Mickey Mouse. That's what we need to do. We need to do a bracket of Koff's impersonations with video clips of them. That's
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But guess who Koff is talking about here? Like
Alfredo Brown:Turn it just into a game. You have to match
Vignesh Doraiswamy:who he's talking about.
Alfredo Brown:40,000 different guests before you just get to people in the Midwest. I don't know. Alright. Next, next matchup here. The sixth seed, Lilo and Stitch versus the eleventh seed f one.
Alfredo Brown:F one is a racing movie about f one cars, and it's starring Brad Pitt. And I'm gonna be honest. There seems to be a lot of excitement about it. I know very little about f one in general, and I know very little about this movie. And we've seen other racing movies like Ford versus Ferrari, and it's like, my dad liked it.
Alfredo Brown:I I don't know what else. Like, I'm not really gonna be into a movie about racing. And I think we did we had the Gran Turismo movie come out, and I don't know. I don't think that did very well.
Jagger May:Asked. That was that that shouldn't even yeah.
Alfredo Brown:But that's the thing. It's, like, just you didn't even drop enough interest for people to want to go. Maybe because it's Brad Pitt, it'll be different. But Lilo and Stitch is one of my favorite Disney movies, and I'm willing to just go and watch this regardless of whether it is just a rerelease of the animated version or something cool that they're able to spin out here from Disney. So my vote's gonna go with Lilo and Stitch.
Jagger May:This is where we're gonna like, I love Lilo and Stitch, and I wanna see this, but I'm a big f one fan. If you guys have watched drive to survive, Formula One racing is one of the things that watching it in a cinematic, even in a documentary setting, is just so exhilarating that if you have excellent direction, if you have someone who can carry a leading role like Brad Pitt, this is gonna be killer. Like and and again, I say drive to survive on Netflix. I grew up in a racing town in in Arkansas and Oklahoma. I've never been to a race or any of that boxcar, NASCAR shit.
Jagger May:F one is on a whole other level. It's like it it's a difference between going to a ramen shop and having instant ramen at your house without even a egg cracked in it, of why it's not another level. So, like, like, I am so hyped for this f one movie. They actually filmed a lot of this stuff in an f one race. Like, if you've never watched Formula One, go pop on Drive to Survive, and you will be hooked from, like, day one.
Jagger May:So f one is the one sport that I watch that's pure. I'm not gambling on it. People aren't asking me about gambling about it for my day job. It is just pure
Alfredo Brown:fly. Stepped on. Yeah.
Jagger May:Yeah. Exactly. So that that is my my sales pitch for for f one. I I'm hyped for this.
Alfredo Brown:You know, I'm with Jagermann. Watch this. Watch this in IMAX. That's what it's about. This is purely supposed to be something visually stunning to watch.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Yeah. Joseph Joseph Kaczynski is the director. He did Tron Legacy, but he did one of my favorite underrated movies of all time, Oblivion, though Tom Cruise was in it.
Jagger May:So I thought Oh, yeah.
Alfredo Brown:High fi movie, man. I love that with m eighty three's music. So you're gonna like, Lewis Hamilton produces this movie, crew producer rather, and you're gonna see all 10 f one teams and their, various real life drivers in this. You know, it's it's a story we've heard before. Brad Pitt has an accident.
Alfredo Brown:He retires. He's gonna mentor some young buck in the world of f one racing. But I think this one, you're just watching for the spectacle. Every now and then you go watch a movie to just be completely in awe of the cinematography. I don't care about the plot for this thing.
Alfredo Brown:I just wanna see f one on IMAX. And I'm with Jaggedman. I've been watching this stuff since, like, on and off since, like, Michael Schumacher days when I was a kid. It was kinda big where I was growing up. So, I just wanna see what it's like.
Alfredo Brown:It's, know, f one is the pinnacle of, sports racing and these you know, the the engineering is perhaps even more fantastical Passive.
Jagger May:Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:The the the the drivers themselves. I think the drivers championship is cool, but, like, how they create and do these things within the confines of their rules or their formula, so to speak. So I am far more excited for this than, again, just another live action remake of something that I've seen already. Like, I just don't know that I'm I'm there for that anymore.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. On principle, just like I said with how to turn your drag your dragon, I I can't pick Leland Stitch. So my vote's for f one, even though I know nothing about cars.
Jagger May:Suck it, Bob Iger. Definitely, like, for background noise and stuff like that, it's just as documentary style. Go pop on drive to survive. I I was like you guys. I'm like, racing fucking sucks.
Jagger May:Get fucked. I'm not about to become a racist.
Alfredo Brown:Man, drive to survive.
Alfredo Brown:A racist? A racist? Like, we did it. And you dropped it so casually. That's like that's like the people never mind.
Alfredo Brown:I'm gonna keep that one out. Never mind.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Tell the jokes.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Yep. It's like the people who mispronounce what a rapper is.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Oh, yeah. Wow.
Alfredo Brown:I heard he
Vignesh Doraiswamy:is a rappist. Yes.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. We're on to round two. And just to give everyone the, recap, ballerina beats how to train your dragon, four zero. Predator killer of killers beats final destination bloodlines, four zero. Weapons beats mission impossible, the final reckoning, four zero.
Alfredo Brown:And alright. F one beats Lethal and Stitch, three to one. I lose on that one. Womp. Womp.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Sorry.
Alfredo Brown:But here we go. Round two. This is where we're starting to see things, shape up. Yeah. Poor ballerina.
Alfredo Brown:Because we got the one seed Superman going up against number nine, ballerina. And Ana de Armas, I love you. I'm excited about all the stunts that you're doing on your own. I've seen how hard you are working. It seems like it's going to be a cool movie.
Alfredo Brown:But damn it, nothing for me is going to be bigger than Superman going into the theaters this summer. So for me, it's just it's an easy one for me. Superman over ballerina to the next round.
Jagger May:Yeah. We don't even need to discuss this. Like, sorry.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:We knew this was gonna happen. Yeah. It was a competition
Jagger May:to who was gonna lose to Superman. This is
Alfredo Brown:Fig, anything. No. No. No.
Alfredo Brown:No. No. No. It is not four zero. This is not unanimous.
Alfredo Brown:Oh, you're I'm gonna play
Vignesh Doraiswamy:What's come on.
Alfredo Brown:The question is what am I more excited about? I am apprehensive more than excited for Superman. I'm excited. I'm gonna watch it. I think it's gonna be really great, but I'm really excited
Matthew Kopfhamer:about the second trip
Vignesh Doraiswamy:in the group.
Alfredo Brown:Oh, I smell a little bit of the Rachel Brosnahan.
Alfredo Brown:That's right. Know, the stuff. No. It looks great.
Alfredo Brown:It's great. I try typically not. I watch this one because y'all made me or told me to. I'm the thing is I was always gonna watch Superman. Right?
Alfredo Brown:Like, I think Superman's the most anticipated, like, movie in a while. Everything about it screams it's gonna be incredible, but that also gives it so much potential to fail. I just like exploring the universe of John Wick a bit more. There was something that that movie hooked me very, very early on. So in terms of pure excitement
Matthew Kopfhamer:It was the guns.
Alfredo Brown:I'm actually a little bit more excited for ballerina in a weird way, but I know Superman was gonna win. I mean, Superman's probably gonna win the whole damn bracket. Right? But for this round, I'm gonna vote ballerina even though I know Superman's going through.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Hope you did
Jagger May:it for the plot. Thank you.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah. You did it for the content. We can appreciate that. Content.
Alfredo Brown:The big a Smith big Bayless. That's that's so funny. As a big fan, I think I'm
Alfredo Brown:big a king more than anything else. Bayless. No.
Alfredo Brown:Big bigger Perkins. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Oh, that's her
Alfredo Brown:I'm voting. Don't attach me to the
Vignesh Doraiswamy:My ballerina. My John Wick.
Alfredo Brown:Boy. Alright. Next matchup here, the four seed versus the five seed, and this is gonna be cool because this to me is like I guess we I don't know. We necessarily call predator horror, but it's probably one of the closest things to what we're going to see here with twenty eight years later with a lot of violence, a lot of blood. And twenty eight years later is something that people have legit been waiting years for.
Alfredo Brown:And I'm honestly just gonna cede my vote to whatever you guys have here because I'm excited for twenty eight years later. I have not seen the first two movies. So my excitement is just basically on what people are saying. Like, that's it. Like, people just say, oh, it's it should be really good.
Alfredo Brown:It's a great franchise. Cool. I'm gonna see where you guys go with this. I'm gonna let you guys start it off, Jag.
Jagger May:I've never watched it either. Like, did they name it twenty eight years later because they released the first movie to the public that long? Like, that's what it feels like. Like, like, I have zero opportunity to be excited because I've, like, I'm not gonna watch twenty eight weeks later because I haven't seen twenty eight days later. That literally stopped me from watching that movie.
Jagger May:Everyone's like, it's so good. Cool. I haven't seen the first one. I don't give a shit. Just by default, it's predator for me.
Jagger May:For multiple reasons, it's predator.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Alright. Vig? Interesting.
Jagger May:I guess, you know, I
Alfredo Brown:think that's not unreasonable to say. I'm actually gonna vote for the predator just because I love when great animation gets gets a lot of press and does really well. But the truth is, like, Alex Garland has done some really fantastic stuff. And I know twenty eight days late, man, I was I watched that in, like, high school. I think it was, like, February '2, so it almost feels like twenty eight years later is there.
Alfredo Brown:But it's it's an interesting series. You know, I I think you should watch it. It's become a cult classic. It is rare for a, post apocalyptic horror movie to be both a commercial and critical success. That alone, I think, makes it worth a watch.
Alfredo Brown:Is it what I'm most excited for? No. Because I think my theme is I'm tired of seeing the same stuff over and over again. I have full faith that those will be a slightly different version of what happens with the rage virus and, you know, its effects 28 later. I'm sure there's, like, a small conclave of people that have survived, and and and it's about their existence, and maybe there's another virus.
Alfredo Brown:I don't know. But I feel like I've sort of seen it already. I will probably watch this movie, but I'm far more excited for predator killer of killers.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Interesting. Okay. That's
Alfredo Brown:two there. Cough?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Interesting. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I said, I love predator. I love the franchise. But I kinda know what to expect from what that movie's gonna be just based off the taglines.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What? 28 later, It's an anthology series where it goes around killing the greatest killers in different time like, I know what to expect
Alfredo Brown:from the movie. Have you seen that before? Have you seen it? Like, there's a ninja. There's a samurai era, like, Japanese ninja.
Alfredo Brown:There is a viking. They did.
Alfredo Brown:I am excited. Coming back
Matthew Kopfhamer:so hard. I listen. I am excited for it. Don't get me wrong. But the thing about twenty eight years later is it seems to be a new story set in the universe that we were established in twenty eight days later in in the the before.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So what I'm most excited about is this cast. We have Aaron Taylor Johnson. We have Jodie Comer. We have Ralph Fiennes, and we have Jack O'Connell who we saw in sinners. So those four alone, those names plus Alex Ireland, I'm fucking hyped for this movie just to see what they do within the world that was already established.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And if you haven't seen the first two movies, just watch a recap video on YouTube to get the the feeling if you don't have time to watch the movie and then go see this. Because it seems to be a new story within that sandbox more so than a continuation of the original story is what it seems to me. Maybe I'm completely wrong.
Alfredo Brown:No. No. It's it's seems like it's a very new story.
Jagger May:Yeah. You have a compelling point, Koff. I'm still gonna stand by animation at a different principle, but you could've you could've converted me. Like, if I was any other person, you would've converted me. Let's put it that way.
Jagger May:You know?
Matthew Kopfhamer:But I got Do convert Alfredo?
Alfredo Brown:I'm very close. I'm very close to converting. But the thing is that's gonna put us at a two two tie. And We gotta go to the crack.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Then we gotta go to the audience score for tiebreaker.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. We we don't have that because we couldn't get we couldn't just naturally do a round two poll here because we didn't know what was going to advance. So we only had tiebreakers for round one. So I said that I was gonna go with the majority on this. I love the whole group going, oh, shit.
Alfredo Brown:You're right. That makes sense. Looks so good.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Go buy IMDB score or whatever for a tiebreaker.
Alfredo Brown:No. I mean, I said I was gonna go with with the popular vote on this one. Alright. And I'm I'm intrigued by twenty eight years later. I'm excited for predator killers of killers.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Killer of kills. There we go. And I think excitement is what this is. Respect the game.
Alfredo Brown:Okay? It's not what you're intrigued by.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What you do, her.
Alfredo Brown:Very obvious conophilia that there is for twenty eight years later. Yeah. Alright. So that puts predator killer of killers into the semifinal against Superman. That's gonna be a fun one to talk about.
Jagger May:You had a good run.
Alfredo Brown:You're doing good, baby girl.
Alfredo Brown:You're doing so good. One thing about
Alfredo Brown:twenty eight years
Matthew Kopfhamer:a damn second.
Alfredo Brown:Hang on. One thing one thing I wanted to point out Big win. Why you say that?
Alfredo Brown:One minute.
Alfredo Brown:Y'all know how they filmed 28 later?
Alfredo Brown:No. Twenty years? Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Like On an iPhone 15 max.
Alfredo Brown:Once again, intrigue. Not exciting.
Alfredo Brown:Well, yes. When you watch it, figure it out.
Alfredo Brown:But, yeah, coughs out. He hates iPhones. Yeah. Now
Matthew Kopfhamer:I'm questioning my decision.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. I just needed I just needed a cough to know that. Now what do you say, Matthew?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Damn it. Not predator.
Jagger May:Cough cough is like, how am I gonna download an image file to watch this? It's like
Alfredo Brown:love the way that we spun this around. It's just like, Koff laid out all these good things, and then Vig's like, yeah. But it's on an iPhone. It's got the guy from Made in Manhattan and then Craven in it. Are you really that excited?
Alfredo Brown:Change my mind. Koff.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I love that you said Made in Manhattan to describe Ray Fonz. It's like I'm I'm sure
Alfredo Brown:he hates that fucking movie. Homie.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Don't hold
Alfredo Brown:the fort.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I don't know if I've ever seen
Vignesh Doraiswamy:maybe He he said Schindler's List, Conclave, fucking the menu, and everyone's why I'm in
Alfredo Brown:a movie. Ben Hat.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Remember that Jennifer Lopez? They had, like, a three on on IMDb. Okay.
Alfredo Brown:Smoking. Made in Manhattan. Definitely on the next bracket that we do have worse movies.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:I want us to get big enough to bring him on for an interview, and I
Alfredo Brown:want you to ask him, what was your experience? Our favorite movie of yours. And he's like, oh, Harry Potter. No. No.
Alfredo Brown:You do you do the description that Dwight Schrute has in the bloopers. It's like a Latina maid in New York with a
Alfredo Brown:big fat ass. Wait.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:It's like, did you watch Conclave? No. I'm not really a religious person. Didn't watch the menu either. Very picky eaters.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Oh
Alfredo Brown:god. Okay. Thirty minutes in.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:All the rails.
Matthew Kopfhamer:We gotta move Let's go.
Alfredo Brown:Next matchup here, the fantastic four, the two c. The fantastic four, the first steps, going up against weapons.
Jagger May:Sorry, weapons. Okay. Sorry, Craig.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Sorry, man. Just fantastic four.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Auto auto win. Come on.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Well well, it's you had a gay joke.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Let's go pop a page.
Alfredo Brown:Quick question, though. While we're on there, just thirty second question. Nope. Is there a movie that you think has more potential to flop in our list than this? Is the hype just too much?
Jagger May:Superman. Because they have never done Superman full well.
Alfredo Brown:They always mess it up.
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. They haven't done Superman well since the original. Let's say that. Man of I like Man of Steel, but a lot of people didn't
Alfredo Brown:Man of Steel was okay.
Jagger May:Those people are never gonna be fucking happy. Superman people are kind of the worst comic people because they're like, like, you're literally making a god on TV, and if you don't do it perfectly, they're they'll turn on you. That's it's more of a Superman problem and not their fan base. We're not gonna go down that road. Sorry, guys.
Alfredo Brown:That's not that's not this show.
Jagger May:It's not this show. No.
Alfredo Brown:So, fantastic for the first steps moves on to the semifinals. And then the next matchup here is the three seed Jurassic World rebirth going up against f one. And all of the rumors and reports I've heard about Jurassic World Rebirth is that it's going to be a lot more like the books. We've got I believe it was the original writer or one of the original directors from the first Jurassic The first movie. The first Jurassic Park movie Mhmm.
Alfredo Brown:Coming back to this. I believe it was the writer. You know, they're they're they're going with some some hot actors at the moment. I can't remember his name, but homie from from wicked who who's gonna be in this. You've got Mahershala Ali.
Alfredo Brown:You've got Scarlett Johansson.
Alfredo Brown:Still don't think it's good.
Alfredo Brown:Jonathan, thank you. That's what it is. I know, Jack. I know. I know.
Alfredo Brown:I'm. Hey, listen, if I was going to go Lilo and Stitch over F1, I'm still going Jurassic World rebirth over F1, just in the hopes that we're going to get back to what made Jurassic Park so good for everyone going to the theaters. So drastic for me, Jack, you're f one.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Yeah. If it's anything like the books, then you've got me. So I'll always pick dinosaurs over cars anyway. I was, you know, that type
Jagger May:of kid. Vague helped me out, dog.
Alfredo Brown:That's that's that's great podcast for a seven year old boy. Dinosaurs are cars.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dinosaurs misses guys. Who wins? And then you have the then you have the transformers.
Alfredo Brown:It's like, what if you made them both?
Jagger May:Oh, wow. Yeah. That is true.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Nice. Big, help me out. These people
Alfredo Brown:have Dude, I just
Alfredo Brown:can't, man. I really cannot do this. Jurassic World, what was it? Dominion? I don't
Matthew Kopfhamer:even remember.
Alfredo Brown:Was it the movie that, like, we watched? Dog shit. People remember is like this.
Alfredo Brown:It's not the same one.
Alfredo Brown:Brontosaurus type, like, dying, and you see it as the island comes with that dominion. I don't remember.
Matthew Kopfhamer:No. That was
Alfredo Brown:That was dominion. That was the main.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Fallen Kingdom. That was Fallen Kingdom.
Alfredo Brown:Fallen Kingdom was Exactly.
Alfredo Brown:You're making my point, Matthew. You're making my point. These are garbage. I just can't take any of these stupid dinosaurs.
Alfredo Brown:The hell? I'm calling
Alfredo Brown:you Matthew. When I'm upset at you, I call you Matthew. Alright, Conf. Look. Here's the deal, man.
Alfredo Brown:Like We're full of watch this movie? Probably. Am I excited? Not really. I don't care if you're gonna give me DISTORS, Rex, and this this is basically like X Men, Jurassic World that
Matthew Kopfhamer:they're gonna
Alfredo Brown:have to be in the dinosaurs. Like, I'm I'm tired of
Alfredo Brown:this. Wait.
Alfredo Brown:F one is gonna be more of a spectacle, and that's what I'm gonna watch first. Mhmm. But
Alfredo Brown:I'll watch it. Let's see. Dinosaurs?
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dinosaurs on the map isn't a spectacle? Come on now.
Alfredo Brown:I've seen it before, man.
Alfredo Brown:On floor.
Alfredo Brown:I think I've
Vignesh Doraiswamy:seen I don't need it. I've seen cars
Jagger May:on I've seen cars on screw. Cook as a spectacle. Yeah. Like, Some cars That's
Alfredo Brown:no. No. Honey, dang it. Twenty minutes. Listen.
Alfredo Brown:I am I'm willing to give some leeway to Mahershala Ali, to Jonathan Bailey, who I thought was fantastic and wicked, and even though I don't think anyone else here on the pod saw wicked.
Matthew Kopfhamer:I tried, Garjo.
Jagger May:I actually did try to watch it.
Alfredo Brown:I I rather Like, you put it
Alfredo Brown:on and you couldn't or,
Jagger May:Yeah. And I started planning my wedding instead. So think about that.
Alfredo Brown:I just like I tried to watch it, and then I just didn't. I'm I'm
Jagger May:rather put in addresses in a
Vignesh Doraiswamy:spreadsheet or watch Wicked. I'm like,
Jagger May:Google Sheets, here we
Alfredo Brown:come, baby. That's some hater shit right there. That's some hater shit. I enjoyed Wicked thoroughly. I'm I'm more excited about this, man.
Alfredo Brown:I'm way more excited about this because to me, it's gonna it's continued world building. It's some new lore. We've got actors that we know can bring it when they are in the right scenario. And hearing that we have the writer coming back from the original, it gives me a lot of hope that this is be something that is way more this is way closer to what the books have given us and what Jurassic Park initially meant to fandom. And when you think of fandom, you think of excitement about the movies, you think of Jurassic Park.
Alfredo Brown:If you try to think of a race car movie, you're probably thinking of cars or Talladega Nights. We're we're
Jagger May:just Okay. If you're, like, a 12 year old
Alfredo Brown:Give me give me a good race car movie.
Alfredo Brown:But that's not really a race car movie, is it?
Jagger May:It's a f You'd love drive.
Alfredo Brown:No. That's okay. I'm I'm thinking of drive. I'm thinking of drive.
Jagger May:Oh, okay. But that that's sport
Alfredo Brown:versus car.
Alfredo Brown:Is is driven the is is driven the one with with Thor?
Matthew Kopfhamer:What was the one with Chris Hemsworth? Yeah.
Jagger May:That's actually a good one too. That's a good one too. But no.
Alfredo Brown:That one's
Jagger May:from the nineties, and it has, like, Sylvester Stallone, and it's another good f one movie. I oh, don't don't don't just come on now.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Sylvester Stallone, good movie.
Alfredo Brown:No. I think he's talking about Rush, though. Right? You're talking about, like, Nikki Lauda and Yeah.
Jagger May:Yeah. Another good movie. Versus Rush. Rush Ferrari's good. But I'm just I
Matthew Kopfhamer:fell asleep in Ford versus Ferrari. Sorry.
Jagger May:I have zero fucking faith in in Jurassic Park, man. Like, they they edited Bryce Dallas Howard to have a smaller ass. These people don't know what the fuck
Vignesh Doraiswamy:they're doing. They don't know what they're doing, Alfred.
Alfredo Brown:Principle. Off principle. I'm switching my vote. This is the most massagy thing that we've done in the podcast, but I'm switching my vote off principle there.
Alfredo Brown:And and here's why you should actually switch your vote. They are giving us a six limbed mutated Tyrannosaurus rex. Is that what
Matthew Kopfhamer:you're saying? Movie is gonna be good? No. Is it gonna be fun as hell? Probably.
Matthew Kopfhamer:And that's what I'm going for. I don't care about racing movies at all. Like
Jagger May:Okay. That's okay, man.
Alfredo Brown:Dude, if the dinosaurs were racing, would you guys be more interested in that? Oh. Okay. Now
Matthew Kopfhamer:now we're talking.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Another another thing I
Alfredo Brown:love that all we're doing is fighting for who's gonna lose to the Fantastic Four. Exactly.
Alfredo Brown:I was like, who cares?
Alfredo Brown:Fantastic four wins. Let's just So you know what? Just just one principle. Four. Yeah.
Alfredo Brown:Out of principle, f one, you can take it because Jurassic Park did that to my girl, Bryce Dallas Howard.
Jagger May:Thank you.
Alfredo Brown:And and plus, we can't we just can't keep doing this conversation over and over.
Jagger May:Yeah. Alright. Here we go.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Alright. Well
Jagger May:Watch drastic world be my favorite movie this summer.
Alfredo Brown:I because I'm saying it's It might happen.
Matthew Kopfhamer:For the next round, do we have anything to discuss, basically? I mean No.
Alfredo Brown:I Or do wanna save it for
Matthew Kopfhamer:the finale or the the final?
Alfredo Brown:I just I just wanna give some respect to some of these, lower seeds that made it through. For those of you who weren't maybe I'm sure there were a lot of people watching this or listening to this that weren't as familiar with predator killer of killers and f one. And I think we can just say it right here. It's gonna be a clean sweep that Superman and Fantastic Four are gonna be in the finals, and we will have that discussion there. But let's do this for the people that have been watching or listening.
Alfredo Brown:What is that final pitch that we say to them? This is why you need to go check out these movies even though they're not the most anticipated from us, and maybe you weren't that excited about them prior to this podcast.
Jagger May:Animation is one of the best place it's ever been. Daniel Track Trachtenberg has made great movies. And a lot of what I like about animation is that studios give a fuck less about it, which means they're not altering stories as much. So it lets art be art. So go watch, like, fun art made by talented people.
Jagger May:F one, go watch it because you can be excited about a sport that isn't just football concussions. And maybe I know Koff hates cars and prefers dinosaurs, but, like, I I don't I don't know what to fucking tell you. There's no dinosaurs in this movie.
Matthew Kopfhamer:What I will for predator, one of the voice actors is Michael Bean, and he's fantastic. He was in Terminator as Kyle Reese.
Jagger May:Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He was in aliens as sergeant, or captain or corporal. I don't know what his rank was. Hicks. So, yeah, he he's been great. So, you know, there's another vote for predator if it wasn't going up against, you know, Superman.
Alfredo Brown:Well, we can say on my end
Jagger May:third place, it's probably predator over f one. Was
Alfredo Brown:yeah, that's that's the good talk. Let's do the third place. Predator versus f one.
Jagger May:It it'll be the predator.
Alfredo Brown:That's what I was saying. Yeah. Predator killer killers for all the reasons Jack said. Right? I think with animation, you can pull off certain things and you can be a little bit more creative.
Alfredo Brown:And I just like that it's bit of an anthology. You're giving me three different stories in a universe that, honestly, I have not watched every Predator movie, and I think that's okay. I just like that there's more world building within this universe that has so much lore, and I'm excited to learn more about a different universe. It's the same reason I'm really excited about Ballerina because John Wick captivated me for its lore. So f one's gonna be a spectacle.
Alfredo Brown:It'll be fun. I'm sure it's gonna look great. I actually don't like not super excited about, like, watching Brad Pitt, mentor some other junior like, I'm not there for the story for that one. That one, I'm just going for the visuals. But predator, I think it has a potential pit of all.
Alfredo Brown:Fucked. You you you just made Brad Pitt in f one get all the way here to the semifinals, and you were out on dinosaur lore. And here you're talking about lore, and now you're not excited about Brad Pitt, Vig.
Alfredo Brown:Compared, man, compared to predator killer of killers. I'm more excited about Brad Pitt being a race car driver than I am a six slimmed Tyrannosaurus rex. That's what I got for you.
Alfredo Brown:Fair. You think something I'll take.
Alfredo Brown:If you ask a five year old to draw a T Rex and make it cool, what does he do? He adds four more really short arms. This is gonna be a whole meme, man. People are gonna be walking with the little T Rex arms and have six of them. Dinosaurs versus cars.
Jagger May:The the villain is fucking Randall for monster's egg.
Alfredo Brown:Like, if you really think about it, it's from. Mark that down. That's a clip.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:That's a clip right now.
Alfredo Brown:Get that on the TikTok.
Matthew Kopfhamer:He's back for his revenge.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Oh. Yeah. It's like, I'm just so out on this, man.
Jagger May:Like, I don't and it's just
Vignesh Doraiswamy:like, what what world building do we need that we still keep trying to make money off a shit idea?
Alfredo Brown:Like, I guess that's realistic. I mean, speaking of
Matthew Kopfhamer:I do think the premise is so lit. The the premise is lit. Well, no. We're already past it. Area lost f one.
Matthew Kopfhamer:But, you know, predator killer killers being animated, I think, is a pretty cool swing that they're making in this installment because we haven't seen that yet in this franchise as far as I know. Mean, there there's a comic run. Like, they have alien and predator comics. But as far as, like, animated movies or shows, I'm not sure if this has been done before with this franchise. So I think it's pretty cool that they were able to do it kinda in secret as well.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Dan Trottenberg was like, hey. Look at this thing. I'm I made on the side. You you guys wanna do this? And the studio was like, sweet.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Let's do it.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. The finals. Superman beat predator killer of killers and the fantastic four. First steps beat f one. So we've got our superhero franchises going head to head here.
Alfredo Brown:Superman versus the fantastic four. And, Jag, I wanna hear your thoughts on this first. I know you are a big Fantastic Four fan. I'm actually not quite sure about your, your thoughts and and feelings towards Superman.
Jagger May:I am more worried about Fantastic Four than I am about Superman, and I am really excited for the rebirth of DC more than I am about like, Fantastic Four is like a defibrillator on Marvel right now, and that's a lot of pressure that it has to live up to. And it's like, I'm just and and, like, respecting the game, I'm just anxious about it. I'm gonna go in with the open mind. Superman, I'm just hyped. I'm ready to be there and enjoy whatever James Gunn has given me.
Jagger May:I don't think James Gunn has missed, since fucking splice. I don't think he's missed. Like, Scooby Doo hit. I don't care. What the review banger.
Jagger May:Yeah. So I I'm I'm just full blown excited for Superman. Fantastic Four is cautious optimism. So
Matthew Kopfhamer:I like the way you put that. And and, yeah, I think Superman gets the edge because it's James Gunn. And because we've seen that the care he can take with any property he's given to make it not only, you know, funny, but heartfelt and just I mean, god, galaxy the Guardians of the Galaxy one, two, and three. The way he was able to take a team of characters that, like, six people knew about and make them now global sensations and make it a franchise within a franchise, I think, is incredible. So, yeah, very excited to see what he does with Superman and the DC as an overall, the fact that he gets to be the singular vision and and and visionary for that universe, I think it's in safe hands.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Whereas the MCU is floundering, and Kevin Fiji is is still trying to figure out what to do with these next few phases after Endgame. And so Fantastic Four, unfortunately, as a franchise, does not have a good track record on screen and on the big screen. So either this is the first one that does really, really well or it's another flop, and the MCU may be on its, you know, death's door.
Alfredo Brown:You weren't into the first one
Jagger May:with I like the first one.
Alfredo Brown:Yohan Griffin and Jessica Alba.
Alfredo Brown:It was fine.
Alfredo Brown:I mean, it was
Matthew Kopfhamer:fun, but go back and watch it now. Go back and watch it now. It does not
Alfredo Brown:Oh, go back and watch any of those hero movies from that time now. The Toby the first Toby Spider Man is
Alfredo Brown:Unwatchable. Silent.
Matthew Kopfhamer:So I will dial
Jagger May:this. Breaks dick, kid.
Matthew Kopfhamer:You're just a hater.
Alfredo Brown:Made the national treasure. Yeah. Talk to. No. It's not great.
Alfredo Brown:It's not great. It's not great. And I think that's just a a product of the times that it was. But fantastic four has a record of of being not only watchable but enjoyable for people going to the movie theaters, at least with that first film. Second one kinda jumped the shark.
Alfredo Brown:It just wasn't a good movie. And then you get the f four or fan four tastic or however they marketed that. Never watched it. It just just wasn't a movie. Like, it it wasn't.
Alfredo Brown:There was really Yeah.
Matthew Kopfhamer:They shitted out the There was in the rights.
Alfredo Brown:There was nothing that was there that made it an actual movie of, like, rising action, climax, none none of the stuff that we ever want from our heroes. We didn't even get the really a good big fight or anything like that. It's just a lot of talking. And I I think that does a little more harm to the Fantastic Four movie coming out now than, let's say, Man of Steel or any of the Zack Snyder stuff did to this Superman. And like you guys have said, James Gunn hasn't missed.
Alfredo Brown:And more recently, he did not miss with creature commandos. And when you could take something animated and your first step into the DC universe and make it really good, I am very excited for what he can do with this. And it looks like he's gonna be able to balance a lot of different items on this plate and really, like, hit all the different senses in your palette with whether it's crypto, whether it's mister terrific. You got hot girl, Guy Gardner's Green Lantern, so many different characters that may have been the only worry. But from what I've seen here, it kind of looks like from the trailers and everything else DC is doing, they're gonna be able to manage that really well For Fantastic Four, and I'm gonna just spoilers for the movie Thunderbolts right here.
Alfredo Brown:If you're if if you haven't seen it yet, just sorry. You made it, you know, like, fifty minutes into the pod. But we kinda know how Fantastic Four is gonna end. Their world or their universe is going to be destroyed. That's how they end up in our MCU.
Alfredo Brown:So, we're kinda there. I guess it's not necessarily the destination. It's the journey. It's like what goes on in between that and what it could mean to the MCU. I think Superman is and this initial step into the DC cinematic universe is gonna mean a lot more.
Alfredo Brown:So I am more excited for Superman. I'm the only
Alfredo Brown:one you left.
Alfredo Brown:Man, you took you took
Alfredo Brown:all my you took all my, like, talking points.
Alfredo Brown:Thought you I was very passionate about Superman. I got my Superman hoodie, my my my Daily Planet mug. I was not fucking around as they say. Yeah. Yeah,
Alfredo Brown:man. I think I I gotta go with Superman. MCU's, you know, is really on its last legs. Fantastic Four has a chance to revive it. Cautious optimism is at best.
Alfredo Brown:It's probably gonna be the best Fantastic Four movie, but is that what is that even saying? Is that saying
Jagger May:much that enough? You know?
Alfredo Brown:Like like, is that yeah. Is that really enough? I don't know. James Gunn, man, everything he's doing, like, or Peacemaker, maybe that's one we didn't talk about. Then even the Suicide Squad.
Alfredo Brown:Right? Like, the Suicide Squad was a critical and commercial success, and it it's a property that had a lot of potential to fail, we've seen it fail. So honestly, like, for James Gunn alone, I think Superman's gotta take it for me. And and and it's Superman. Right?
Alfredo Brown:Like, it's it's this thing that fans can just never actually be happy about. And like Jagger said, man, just get over yourselves, guys. Just go see a god on screen and look at the tumultuous stuff that he has to deal with. We know he's a god. That's what makes the movie so much fun.
Alfredo Brown:Like, look at everything else. Like, I I just can't take it with the fandom sometimes. Like, the most toxic fandom out there's gotta be, like, the Superman fans.
Jagger May:It's Star Wars and Superman. If you think about comics, Superman, hands down, the most toxic fan base. X Men, we're just begging to fucking get something.
Alfredo Brown:You know? It's like
Matthew Kopfhamer:Canonically, Superman canonically, Superman has lost to Godzilla. So Godzilla reigns supreme overall.
Alfredo Brown:Those That's the next Jurassic World movie. Got it. Mhmm. Yep. Yep.
Alfredo Brown:Randall versus Superman. In f one with cars. Oh. Well, there we have it.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Predator just chilling in the back.
Alfredo Brown:Mhmm. Superman wins for our most anticipated movie of the summer for 2025, and we're probably gonna be doing more stuff like this when, like, fall and winter comes around. We're gonna have a whole new slate of movies and shows and things like that. And, guys, all the superhero talk here has me wanting us to do that X Men recasting that we're talking about. We down to do that next week?
Alfredo Brown:Yeah. Yeah, man. Because we're
Alfredo Brown:gonna we we have a break from TV right now. There's not there's not much going on. Andor just finished. We we got The Last of Us once a week, and that's that's only going on for a little bit more.
Matthew Kopfhamer:Two more episodes.
Alfredo Brown:Yep. Yep. So, also, May, man, it's Star Wars month. We're gonna have some more Star Wars content that we're doing, ranking some different things from Star Wars, talking about, all the things that we love from that universe that you guys love as well. And, guys, this was a lot of fun.
Alfredo Brown:This was a lot of fun. We're gonna be back again to do it later, and then we're gonna be back again on Monday with our review of the latest episode of The Last of Us. As always, I wanna thank everybody for watching or listening all the way through for myself, for Jagger, for Koff, for Vig. We'll see you next time. Adios.
Alfredo Brown:Alright. Let us fuck.
Alfredo Brown:Or not. I'd rather just finger it.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:Fucking punk.
Alfredo Brown:Or not. Or not.
Vignesh Doraiswamy:But he thought it through.
Alfredo Brown:The fact that you've thought about it, though. I'm feeling good about myself right now.
Alfredo Brown:Guys, it's been a long time since I've seen y'all, man. You know? Thinking about
Matthew Kopfhamer:all sorts of things.
Alfredo Brown:Big just goes hospital to basement every day. Alright. There we go.
